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[gkrieg13]

I mean if you look at it the deadline is in two days and I know I'm the go to lynch today if I don't make a case on someone else

[iguanaiguana]

Can you give me a list most likely scum to town?

[gkrieg13]

Can you give me a list most likely scum to town?

Awaclus
RR
ced
SS
iguana
Joseph
gkrieg


ss and ced would still be on my could lynch list, but I would not take part in an iguana lynch or a Joseph lynch.

[silverspawn]

Why's Joseph so towny?

[gkrieg13]

Why's Joseph so towny?

The way that he has acted compared to the way that RR has acted when I think that one of them has to be scum because of the lover thing.  I have a strong feeling that RR is scum, so I have a strong feeling that Joseph is town.

[ced]

I'm happy with a gkrieg lynch right now. I really do think he had a scum motive for suggesting the before-the-fact claim, and the townie motives he tries to provide just aren't very strong. Additionally, his latest post has a few things that come from a scum mindset, IMO. I can expand on that later when I have more time.

I'd like to hear more from our two nonvoters (Awaclus and RR) about who they'd like to lynch as the deadline approaches.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline.

[gkrieg13]

I'm happy with a gkrieg lynch right now. I really do think he had a scum motive for suggesting the before-the-fact claim, and the townie motives he tries to provide just aren't very strong. Additionally, his latest post has a few things that come from a scum mindset, IMO. I can expand on that later when I have more time.

I'd like to hear more from our two nonvoters (Awaclus and RR) about who they'd like to lynch as the deadline approaches.

I would really like to know what the scum motive can be.  Because it seems like you don't have a reason why scum would want to know who people are requesting before the fact. 

[ced]

I would really like to know what the scum motive can be.  Because it seems like you don't have a reason why scum would want to know who people are requesting before the fact.

I outlined it earlier, here:

You suggest you thought that people would request their top scumreads, right? Then why, precisely, did you ask for a before-the-fact request claim? It's, like, actively damaging to have such a claim if you think we'd otherwise request the scummiest people, since the lynch flip might change peoples' opinions. Not to mention that the scum would be interested in hearing everyone's top scumread right before night.

[gkrieg13]

I would really like to know what the scum motive can be.  Because it seems like you don't have a reason why scum would want to know who people are requesting before the fact.

I outlined it earlier, here:

You suggest you thought that people would request their top scumreads, right? Then why, precisely, did you ask for a before-the-fact request claim? It's, like, actively damaging to have such a claim if you think we'd otherwise request the scummiest people, since the lynch flip might change peoples' opinions. Not to mention that the scum would be interested in hearing everyone's top scumread right before night.

I still don't think that would be a good enough reason for me to actually suggest it as scum.  It really comes from negligent town than from idiotic scum.

[gkrieg13]

I fear I'm going to become the lynch tomorrow due to other people's inactivity.  Please read me and read other people.  I'm not scum, and I don't want to be lynched because I was only reread by scum.  Or even if I was only reread by one town and everyone sheeped him.  That just isn't acceptable.

[gkrieg13]

I'm fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline.

Why do you want to lynch me?

[Joseph2302]

I'm fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline.

Why do you want to lynch me?

If RR likes it, that's potentially worrying for me.
Since RR is scum, would he say that about his scum buddy?
I think probably not.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline.

Why do you want to lynch me?

If RR likes it, that's potentially worrying for me.
Since RR is scum, would he say that about his scum buddy?
I think probably not.

This seems annoyingly forced. Just drop it, man. I'm not scum. You are wrong. It happens.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline.

Why do you want to lynch me?

I'm not sure I do, (hence me not voting for you) but you're better than a no lynch.

[gkrieg13]

I'm fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline.

Why do you want to lynch me?

If RR likes it, that's potentially worrying for me.
Since RR is scum, would he say that about his scum buddy?
I think probably not.

This seems annoyingly forced. Just drop it, man. I'm not scum. You are wrong. It happens.

If you aren't scum, that seems to strongly indicate that Joseph is.  I'm not quite sure why you don't want his lynch as badly as he wants yours.

[gkrieg13]

I'm fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline.

Why do you want to lynch me?

I'm not sure I do, (hence me not voting for you) but you're better than a no lynch.

I guess this is true.  Except that if we no lynch, we at least will have different partners.  Lynch rules won't be all that much different, but we would probably want to no lynch again to be at LYLO instead of MYLO.  So I guess that just forces scum to kill two people instead of letting us decide who we want to lynch.  So actually now I'm not sure if my lynch actually is better than a no lynch.

Also to address your point, you did say that you were fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline on this same page, so why the apprehension now?  I mean saying that you are fine with my lynch before the deadline strongly insinuates that you do want to lynch me, even if you aren't voting for me yet.

[iguanaiguana]

I'm fine with a gkrieg lynch before the deadline.

Why do you want to lynch me?

If RR likes it, that's potentially worrying for me.
Since RR is scum, would he say that about his scum buddy?
I think probably not.

This seems annoyingly forced. Just drop it, man. I'm not scum. You are wrong. It happens.

If you aren't scum, that seems to strongly indicate that Joseph is.  I'm not quite sure why you don't want his lynch as badly as he wants yours.

My concern is that scum is just relying on us to fall back on this fallacious argument.

[Roadrunner7671]

I wanted to lynch you before the deadline because I did some thinking and you're better than the default lynch, Awaclus.

Gkreig is not the default lynch. It'll be Awaclus.

[ced]

Deadline in 8.5 hours by my count. Would really like to hear from Awaclus, since he's still the lynch right now with two unplaced votes.

I guess this is true.  Except that if we no lynch, we at least will have different partners.  Lynch rules won't be all that much different, but we would probably want to no lynch again to be at LYLO instead of MYLO.  So I guess that just forces scum to kill two people instead of letting us decide who we want to lynch.  So actually now I'm not sure if my lynch actually is better than a no lynch.

After this post I'm not sure why anyone would want to lynch anyone other than gkrieg.

[Awaclus]

Vote: gkrieg

[gkrieg13]

Deadline in 8.5 hours by my count. Would really like to hear from Awaclus, since he's still the lynch right now with two unplaced votes.

I guess this is true.  Except that if we no lynch, we at least will have different partners.  Lynch rules won't be all that much different, but we would probably want to no lynch again to be at LYLO instead of MYLO.  So I guess that just forces scum to kill two people instead of letting us decide who we want to lynch.  So actually now I'm not sure if my lynch actually is better than a no lynch.

After this post I'm not sure why anyone would want to lynch anyone other than gkrieg.

The way you're pushing me is pretty scummy. You keep just posting things that I've written and saying that people should lynch me based off of it but then not explaining why. Man if you have a case, explain it. What you are doing now makes it impossible for me to defend myself.

Why don't you want to lynch Awaclus?

[silverspawn]

^ agreed

[gkrieg13]

If people want a game to read for reference that shows that I'm town, look for the game where I get mislynched. I'll find it for you and even go to the day.

Here is the link. http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=14803.msg576185#msg576185

Just reread me or just part of the day. I refuse to get mislynched again. Especially against awaclus when the case on me isn't even that great

[gkrieg13]

In that game there actually was a legitimate case on me given by a townie person.

This game is different because I know there has to be scum on my wagon. I was pretty sure it was awaclus but with the case he is giving I really think it might be ced. Except why would he want to protect awaclus?