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[iguanaiguana]

As an aside: I hear that RR gets mislynched a lot. What does he get mislynched for?

Last time we mislynched him, he got hammered after saying "Why don't we try looking for the other scum, since there are two." What he meant was "Since I am confirmed scum in your minds, why don't we consider the other scum who must be in the game." But he was town.

7. Haddock - His initial content post was phoneposting, so whatever. Man his iguana case is bad though. It's like he goes into it without an understanding of what a scumtell is. Though I don't think this is necessarily scummy either. Then his frustrations over getting wagoned could also go either way - but I did like his defense of himself from faust. His opinion on the Joseph wagon, though - there's two different comments in favour of it (363, 414) but he's unwilling to vote. Like, either of those comments would make much more sense if they ended with a vote. It's not like Haddock really has a vote elsewhere (since he said he'd move his vote from iguana). So why does he say "I could get behind that" and not move his vote?

I agree with this analysis. And Joseph just softclaimed.

Vote: Haddock

[ced]

It really wasn't.

Faust didn't just coax the info out of an unpressured Joseph. He was at 5 votes at the time, with a looming deadline. He was going to have to claim something. And there's only two claims that can stop a lynch this game: doc and lovers.
Faust's question gave us just enough info to know that we shouldn't be lynching Joseph today. It was a good question.

[Roadrunner7671]

Yeah, Joseph has said he's town in my QT quite a bit.

[EFHW]

Vote Count 1.9

iguana (2): Haddock, Awaclus
Haddock (0): ADK, iguana
Seprix (0): Joseph, ced
Joseph (0): Jimmmmm, gkrieg
ADK (0): faust
faust (0): Seprix, Roadrunner

Not voting (1): silverspawn
With 12 alive it takes 7 to majority lynch

Day ends Saturday, June 11th at 1 p.m.

[Roadrunner7671]

Joseph, vote for Faust. That kid will be the downfall of us all.

[Joseph2302]

It really wasn't.

Faust didn't just coax the info out of an unpressured Joseph. He was at 5 votes at the time, with a looming deadline. He was going to have to claim something. And there's only two claims that can stop a lynch this game: doc and lovers.
Faust's question gave us just enough info to know that we shouldn't be lynching Joseph today. It was a good question.

Agree. I had to do something to survive.
And I haven't given scum much anyway.

Joseph, vote for Faust. That kid will be the downfall of us all.

No, per above.

[Roadrunner7671]

'Haven't given scum much anyway?'

You claimed a PR in an open setup.

[iguanaiguana]

12. iguanaiguana - So I guess I've been implicitly trusting of iguana re: his meta infodump from earlier, though there's debate on what he even means by "solvy". In 334 he says I apparently misconstrued him on it meaning "analytical", then he seems to suggest they are not dissimilar in 339. This might just be semantics. However, speaking of 339, he describes his scumgame as being "solvy" (and, correct me if I'm wrong, that implicitly his town game as not?), but yet he describes himself as a "normal solvy fella" in our qt. It's weird more than anything else, but it follows that one of those evaluations isn't correct.
Oh, he also made 353, which I don't like. For a start, Silver/faust look very far from 100% in agreement to me. They synced votes on RR and Silver posted in faust's defense, but that was half a gamethread ago. Since then they haven't really shown any interest in eachothers' top suspects. Additionally, the extent of iguana's conclusion is that this is "interesting." Anything more to add to that?

Ok, this whole solvy vs. analytical thing is so much of a non-starter that I've been super-duper loathe to respond to it at all. But you keep bringing it up, so here goes.

It's a pain in the butt to explain every single player's meta and get all the details right. So I skipped a few people at the end by saying, "Hey they're pretty normal, they just try to solve the game like anyone else." Then you asked about me and I didn't know WTH to say about myself so I just said "Uh, I'm normal too." When you interpreted solvy to mean "analytical" it didn't sound quite right to me but I also didn't bother to correct it because it more or less DOES apply to how Gkrieg/ADK/Haddock/me all play. Then, Haddock decided to disagree with the analytical comment and go on his whole "Woe is me, I don't know how to mafia" rant. The thing is, Haddock is solvy/analytical/whatever. He's good at the game. He just likes to whine and moan and complain about himself. There, that's Haddock's meta.

I wasn't hoping for or expecting town points for telling you about the other players in the game. I was just bored and you seemed curious enough about people so I figured, why not let you in. I was acutally acutely aware that I could be giving all this information to scum but I figured, well if you have partners they would probably tell you anyway. It's common knowledge for all of us; you're the outsider. I was just being nice. And not in a buddying sort of way, because I expected no town-cred whatsoever for it.

[iguanaiguana]

If it's not clear yet, I'm done being nice now. It's the middle of the weak and I'm tired and cranky and ready to lynch someone not named Iguana Iguana.

[iguanaiguana]

week*

[Roadrunner7671]

If it's not clear yet, I'm done being nice now. It's the middle of the weak and I'm tired and cranky and ready to lynch someone not named Iguana Iguana.

How about someone named Faust?

[Seprix]

It really wasn't.

Faust didn't just coax the info out of an unpressured Joseph. He was at 5 votes at the time, with a looming deadline. He was going to have to claim something. And there's only two claims that can stop a lynch this game: doc and lovers.
Faust's question gave us just enough info to know that we shouldn't be lynching Joseph today. It was a good question.

I guess in that sense, it was a good question.

[iguanaiguana]

Hey Awaclus, I just had a theory, then I decided to withhold the idea until later for the benefit of town.

Can I have a gold star?

[Seprix]

Well, unvote anyways. I need to think. I'm going to reread Haddock or Iguana or someone.

Hey Awaclus, I just had a theory, then I decided to withhold the idea until later for the benefit of town.

Can I have a gold star?

Why did you say that? You should have said nothing at all. Even if the theory is lame/not true, it's still not really needed to be said. So Awaclus is not going to give you a gold star.

[EFHW]

Clarification of procedures in case of ties at deadline: The first tie-breaker will be the number of unofficial (grey) votes.  If tied players also tie for unofficial votes, then the one who reached and stayed at the tied vote first is lynched.  If Player X and Y both have three votes, having reached three votes earlier in game is not relevant if they later had fewer votes before returning to three.

Example:
vote count 1.3 Player X has 3 votes, Player Y has none
vote count 1.7 Player X has 1 vote, Player Y has 2 votes
vote count 1.9 Player X has 2 votes, Player Y has 3 votes
final vote count: Player X has 3 votes, Player Y has 3 votes.  Player Y is lynched.

[Awaclus]

Hey Awaclus, I just had a theory, then I decided to withhold the idea until later for the benefit of town.

Can I have a gold star?

It also needs to be a good theory. If it is, then you can have a gold star.

[faust]

Vote: Faust

You don't get to role hunt, buddy. Shame on Joseph for answering, but no. No way are you getting away with this.

I will. Just watch.

[faust]

I guess RR is somewhat scummy for attacking me, but you know, lynching him doesn't seem like a very bright idea right now.

[Seprix]

Vote: Faust

You don't get to role hunt, buddy. Shame on Joseph for answering, but no. No way are you getting away with this.

I will. Just watch.

Man, does scum even say this?

[faust]

I think an ADK reread is warranted.

His fist vote goes to me, after my RR vote. That's actually his first post. I have to say that skipping RVS is somewhat towny. The reasoning for that vote is meh however. Well. It's early Day 1, I guess I can forgive meh votes. He continues to pressure people, trying to move the game forward. Here's a very interesting comment that is directed at me, but might tell us something about ADK:

And you're also experienced enough to know that trying to push out of RVS is viewed as townier, so you might leap at the chance to make a "real vote".

Note that this is exactly how ADK played.

Then he unvotes me after the slip. "Lame", he says. I guess he would feel that way as either alignment. Goes for Haddock then, and for iguana later. Then back to Haddock. His motivation to move the game forward has ceased after those first few pages. I don't like that.

So uh.. not sure? I can see how this is scum play. But there's nothing really good in here, nothing that really makes him look scummy.

[Roadrunner7671]

Vote: Faust

You don't get to role hunt, buddy. Shame on Joseph for answering, but no. No way are you getting away with this.

I will. Just watch.

He says he will get away with role hunting.

'I will get away with it.' I will tunnel you until I die!

[faust]

Vote: Faust

You don't get to role hunt, buddy. Shame on Joseph for answering, but no. No way are you getting away with this.

I will. Just watch.

He says he will get away with role hunting.

'I will get away with it.' I will tunnel you until I die!

Well, then I hope you die quickly

[Roadrunner7671]

Vote: Faust

You don't get to role hunt, buddy. Shame on Joseph for answering, but no. No way are you getting away with this.

I will. Just watch.

He says he will get away with role hunting.

'I will get away with it.' I will tunnel you until I die!

Well, then I hope you die quickly

He just threatened me. Someone lynch this man.

[iguanaiguana]

Vote: Faust

You don't get to role hunt, buddy. Shame on Joseph for answering, but no. No way are you getting away with this.

I will. Just watch.

Man, does scum even say this?

Faust makes a particularly bold scum. OTOH, Faust makes a particularly bold town too. He once said "I am the scumhunting God of f.ds." I don't remember his alignment when he said that but I prefer to think of that as a scum-moment from him. It makes me like him more to think that statement was not authentic.

[iguanaiguana]

Also, the first thing he ever did was call me his pet Iguana.

Don't talk me into a Faust lynch, please. This man is my Awaclus.