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[Seprix]

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Duchess, Advisor, Gardens, Procession, Scout, Smithy, Butcher, Cartographer, Treasury, Hunting Grounds

https://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160408/log.0.1460149446206.txt

Procession is just insane. It saved my rear in this game. I was very behind, I didn't win the Advisor split, I was thinking about Procession, and I wanted to thin out a bit, but before I knew it, I lost the split 7/3, and he Provinced two turns in a row, so I was very frightened. So I doubled down, bought a bunch of Treasuries and cards to burn on Procession, and I got nice collisions at the right time, for which I am thankful. I stole the win from him by clamping down on Provinces, trashing them for other Provinces to rush a quick ending and hopefully win, which I did.

Like what I did here? Anything better you see?

[smcrtorchs]

I  would go for a butcher HG megaturn. Openign advisor and trying to win the split, because if opp gets a lot of advisors things can turn bad. Adding a butcher as soon as possible and a procession before the fifth advisor for sure, to start the processing thing a bit earlier. I would get multiple processions and process the advisors to treasuries butchers and treasuries to hunting grounds. Then at a big megaturn you trash the HG with the buthcers for multiple provinces and duchies.


Here is the log, I bought only 5 advisors, assuming opp would fight for split, although the bot did not care for them in the game.
The bot played more or less smithy big money, adding a cartographer and still being not far off from my points tally in 15 turns.

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?https://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160412/log.0.1460492984554.txt

[faust]

I'm a bit doubtful about the engine here... I by which I mean I think a perfectly executed engine probably beats Butcher-BM, but if you don't play perfectly, it won't be enough. Like this game lasted 16 turns; that's enough for a Butcher-BM player to get 5 Provinces. And he can also mill Provinces if necessary.

[Seprix]

I'm a bit doubtful about the engine here... I by which I mean I think a perfectly executed engine probably beats Butcher-BM, but if you don't play perfectly, it won't be enough. Like this game lasted 16 turns; that's enough for a Butcher-BM player to get 5 Provinces. And he can also mill Provinces if necessary.

I'd love to play this board with someone. Maybe you. It's an interesting board.

[smcrtorchs]

The bot also probably misplays the advisor choices, though I did not check for this.

The engine in the log is quite a bit slower than usual, because I go out of my way a lot at the beginning to buy the 5 advisors which are pretty bad at that point, like it took a lot of time till the first butcher was played. But the log is played assumig opp also goes for advisors and therefore I try to counter this. Otherwise there are better buys than the advisors. I only played just 1 game on this board, so probably it can be played better.

[Seprix]

The bot also probably misplays the advisor choices, though I did not check for this.

The engine in the log is quite a bit slower than usual, because I go out of my way a lot at the beginning to buy the 5 advisors which are pretty bad at that point, like it took a lot of time till the first butcher was played. But the log is played assumig opp also goes for advisors and therefore I try to counter this. Otherwise there are better buys than the advisors. I only played just 1 game on this board, so probably it can be played better.

Dominion Dummy is no bot. And he is no Dummy. He's not a bad player. :p

[smcrtorchs]

Well, I gave this game another shot trying to get more than 5 advisors and it does not look as a good tactic as I originally thought, so this tactic should not be countered. This means that many of the advisors buys in the log were a big waste of time.

[dedicateddan]

The Advisor/Procession is very close to being good, but there's not quite enough trashing or gaining. I'd play butcher big money

[smcrtorchs]

The cartographer makes the engine viable here and consistent, unless I am missing something basic.

In the 4 logs below, whenever I buy an advisor, I make sure that either the bot discards the best card for me, or I do not use the best card if it did not. In fact I try to avoid the advisor, although this slows me down a bit, just to avoid the confusion. On a final note, training on such a board is a good exercise.

Summary

turn 14 VP 45

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?https://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160413/log.0.1460542944043.txt

turn 14 VP 45 again

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?https://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160413/log.0.1460542463238.txt

turn 14 VP 42

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?https://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160413/log.0.1460541630519.txt

turn 13 VP 54

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?https://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160413/log.0.1460540906487.txt

[dedicateddan]

Looks like Cartographer can sift through the junk early/midgame, nice!

[Seprix]

Cartographer was ignored, but it's very viable. Possibly a better buy than Treasury. After looking at some strategies, I think Butcher BM is the best by far, and my opponent just played horribly this game, enough to let me somehow catch up and win.