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[Teproc]

I know, I know. In practice I don't think people will actually be rereading though, just look at how day 2 went.

[Witherweaver]

I know, I know. In practice I don't think people will actually be rereading though, just look at how day 2 went.

Right, well, I'd like to give it a try.

[faust]

That's... if you're town and you think someone is scum, why wouldn't you hammer them ?

Yes, it has become clear to me that this is not a concept you understand.

JUst because RR flipped town the fact that you didn't hammer him is somehow proof of your towniness ?

Proof of course not, evidence yes.

It is in fact quite the contrary : silver's point is that you have been keeping the lynch pool as wide open as possible

Is it? I thought it was that I have voted for 2 town players.

lest you lose the opportunity to get some easy mislynches out of supposedly scummy hammers.

It is also not my fault if others behave scummy, and frankly I'm growing very tired of you trying to paint a picture as though every single hammer is scummy. Have I complained one bit about the hammer on the last day?

It also conveniently shifts theblame for the mislynch away from you despite your presence and activity on wagon...

Interesting... how do you think I could have been "present" on the wagon if I could still hammer?

I mean this is all basic stuff, you know all this and your sudden... well, I don't know how to say it without being condescending, but I don't buy that you're all of a sudden clueless about how mafia works.

The irony...

[A Drowned Kernel]

Vote Count 3.1

gkrieg13 (2): faust, EgorK
faust (2):silverspawn, Teproc
Witherweaver (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (4): 2.71828, gkrieg13, scott_pilgrim, Witherweaver

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day Three begins now and ends at 7 am forum time Saturday, April 9th.

[Hydrad]

oh I thought there were more vote: gkrieg

[Hydrad]

Oh whoops

[Teproc]

JUst because RR flipped town the fact that you didn't hammer him is somehow proof of your towniness ?

Proof of course not, evidence yes.

Same word in French, I did mean evidence clearly. It's not. You not hammering RR when you could have is null, but you trying to get towncred off it is scummy.

As for being present on wagon, I was referring to Joseph here, not RR. The fact is that you were a driving force n the Joseph wagon, but you have managed to shift conversation in such a way that this has barely been discussed.

[Teproc]

Well I guess not the same word, just... of course there's no definitive proof of anything in this game, otherwise we wouldn't be playing it, would we ?

[Witherweaver]

WW: Yuma, Teproc, Faust,

Faust votes for Teproc, then:

WW: Yuma, Teproc, SS

Then it dies down.

Interesting that SS starts it but doesn't vote until later.

Oh, I was wrong about this.  SS initially voted me to start.  So my highest wagon was 4: SS, Yuma, Teproc, Faust.

[Witherweaver]

Relevant post:

My claim: I am a Vanilla Townie.

So am I

Why are you claiming this?

scummy scumslip is scummy vote: WW

I am a VT. But if you are not, you could have an easier time forgetting that every town player is.

[Witherweaver]

Getting towards the end of D1.  Initial reactions:

Faust is coming off townier
e is coming off townier
SP is coming off scummier
Teproc is coming of nullier
SS is coming off scummier
Hydrad is coming off scummier

Limetime was so sparingly involved in D1 that it's pretty hard to tell.  What he did do doesn't indicate any towniness.. I find his absence during all the 'big fights' pretty scummy. 

Preliminary lynch preference is out of {Limetime/Gkrieg, SS, SP}

[Witherweaver]

Ah, there is also an Egor.  Also posts very little, as is par.  He actually seems town to me, though.

[Witherweaver]

Toss a Hydrad in there, so

{Limtetime/Gkrieg, SS, SP, Hydrad}

no ordering there.

[Witherweaver]

Wait, I'm not voting Joseph ?

vote: Joseph

There you go. The softclaiming only solidified it for me. Don't care about the wagon itself, that's putting way too much trust in day 1 reads if you don't want to lynch a wagon just because your town reads (which are just that, because gkrieg is the only IC here) aren't on it.

Alright, the scummy part of this is the "Wait, I'm not voting Joseph?" part.  It feels faked.  That being said, this post is not as scummy as my initial reaction to it. 

[Witherweaver]

I mean, as I initially thought it was when it happened.

[Witherweaver]

Why was there no push to  lynch from the doctors Day 2?  Because of the chances of scum picking up on Joseph's softclaim?

[Teproc]

Why was there no push to  lynch from the doctors Day 2?  Because of the chances of scum picking up on Joseph's softclaim?

There was some. But there's no way scum didn't realise Joseph was a doctor. It only takes one of them, and scum pays more attention to that stuff.

[Witherweaver]

Once again, way, way overestimating how scared scum must be of those PRs/how important it is for them to kill the IC.

You are in fact completely contradictory : implying I *knew* Joseph was a Doctor because I'm scum... in which case I really don't care about killing a Doctor because it means that scum is in the Doctor QT and thus doesn't care about that power at all.

PPE : didn't we do this already on day 1? It came in somewhere under 50% I think ? Well, the "scum being in 3 QTs and having full info" part at least.

I think scum would actually place more emphasis on the importance of removing an IC.  Scum Teproc in particular.. remember that one game that we let ICs live?

Going townier on Teproc from Day 2.

[Witherweaver]

Why was there no push to  lynch from the doctors Day 2?  Because of the chances of scum picking up on Joseph's softclaim?

There was some. But there's no way scum didn't realise Joseph was a doctor. It only takes one of them, and scum pays more attention to that stuff.

Well, I think I was the only one voting for Limetime D2.

[Witherweaver]

And again S_P is producing massive content that doesn't actually commit him to anything real or amounts to any relevant interaction with anyone. Because that's the nice thing with probability, if you start with a false premise (that gkrieg being dead means there's scum in the doctor QT), you can make it say whatever you want. Why didn't we lynch him again ?

Agreed

[Witherweaver]

I mean, maybe not necessary but I don't think it hurts us that much. I don't think the last doctor should necessarily claim though

Pretty sure people can figure it out. I'm unclear on the general upside of claiming vs not claiming anything at this point.

PPE : Well.

Also... just talking about this is awkward which is why I'd kinda like a claim of neighborhoods, but : if the Motion Detector got a positive result, they should obviously claim it. If not... well I kinda think they should still, but then I'm in favor of claiming in general at this point.

Hey, motion detector, that's a thing.

Is there any harm to claiming actions?  Roleblocking and Motion Detecting targets give pseudo clearance to some people.  Is this LyLo?

[Witherweaver]

I'm not saying we should lynch him... but he's really mostly null to me. Has he ever been scum?

PPE: 1

He (SP) was Werewolf scum with me back in Greater Idea.

[faust]

Is there any harm to claiming actions?  Roleblocking and Motion Detecting targets give pseudo clearance to some people.  Is this LyLo?

Claiming action means claiming neighborhoods (to ane extent), so yes there is harm.
Roleblocking and Motion Detecting only give any sort of clearing if scum is not part of that neighborhood.
It's not LyLo.

[Witherweaver]

Is there any harm to claiming actions?  Roleblocking and Motion Detecting targets give pseudo clearance to some people.  Is this LyLo?

Claiming action means claiming neighborhoods (to ane extent), so yes there is harm.
Roleblocking and Motion Detecting only give any sort of clearing if scum is not part of that neighborhood.
It's not LyLo.

Aren't we almost guaranteed at this point for scum to know neighborhoods?  Doctor neighborhood is already outed, and many town are dead.

[Witherweaver]

Oh, right, that latter point is true.