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[Witherweaver]

Like, read, give insight?

[Roadrunner7671]

Like, read, give insight?

Sure, why not? I can look for a scum slip that isn't there. And by insight...I think I have to read to give insight. Saying 'Egor is scum' is technically insightful, but it's also useless.

[Roadrunner7671]

Okay, I'm about to go asleep. Unless someone gives me a solid reason as to why I should remove my vote, it'll stay for the next seven hours. But if you have anything to say, it should be in the next 10 minutes. I'm tired.

[EgorK]

Well, at least no need to pursue wild theories and stuff like this

Vote: RR

So I just need to prove I am town/RR is scum, no need to think. Great

[yuma]

Vote Count 6.1

EgorK (1): RR (L-1)
RR (1): EgorK (L-1)

Not Voting (1): WW


With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.

Day6 will last for 7 days and will end February 2, 2016 at 1:00 pm forum time.

[Witherweaver]

So... how's that proof coming?

[EgorK]

Well, I had not had time yet, so I'll start with obvious

My voting record vs RR voting record - I think that was already posted and I'll find it and quote

My conversation with Teproc in the end of D4 - I had breadcrumbed my N2 action and he confirmed that his results as of N2 were not usual. I'll quote this as well

[EgorK]

Interesting. Teproc, had you used your power N2?

I'm not sure I want to answer that. Pretty sure it's only worth it if we're fullclaiming, and in thise case, well, I'd rather you went first obviously.

I would not claim before you and have compelling reason to do so which town would be able to deem appropriate

Huh ? You'd have compelling reason to do so as scum too, so we'll have to let the rest of town decide this if it comes to that.

What the problem? Town'll just lynch me if reason supplied by me is not appropriate

Fine. I did use my power on night 2.

Teproc, was there any anomalies?

Yes.

PPE : Currently thinking about it.

[EgorK]

My votes:

D1:
RR (RVS)

D2:
XP

D3:
XP

D4:
Awaclus

D5:
ss
unvote
ss

D6:
RR

Funny, until D5 I only voted scum (even through my RR vote was RVS - it was 1st post D1)

[EgorK]

RR and Awaclus votes:

D1:

#48 Awa: ss (RVS)
#155 RR: Hydrad
#201 Awa: RR

D2:

#360 Awa: ash
#369 RR: ash

D3:

#414 RR: XP (first post of the day)
#418 Awa: XP
#424 RR: unvote
#425 Awa: unvote

D4:

#595 Awa: WW
#598 RR: WW
#666 RR: unvotes, says Awaclus is scummy, but not voting him

D5:

D6:

#1142 RR: EgorK


Not sure what to take from Awa votes here, just remembered EFHW found it interesting

[Witherweaver]

So the thing with Teproc is the biggest thing in your favor, and how you claimed, because it does look like a real PR claim. 

However, you could have planned it once you decided you were claiming PR, which could have happened back on Day 2/3. And, as you say, you could have known Teproc was really blocked Night 2 by XP.

Could you go over your reasoning for choosing targets each night?

Interesting, if Egor is telling the truth then town!PR!Teproc got Roleblocked by town twice.

[Witherweaver]

EFHW found it interesting because it was tandem with Awaclus.  I'm not certain scum does this, though I've thought a couple times that I would want to try it as scum.

[Witherweaver]

My votes:

D1:
RR (RVS)

D2:
XP

D3:
XP

D4:
Awaclus

D5:
ss
unvote
ss

D6:
RR

Funny, until D5 I only voted scum (even through my RR vote was RVS - it was 1st post D1)

Thing is that voting record is fairly null.  XP was caught caught.  In your shoes, I would have quickly voted XP day 2.  Day 3 XP votes mean nothing.  So, the Awaclus one is the only one of note.  But it was mainly you v. Awaclus Day 4, so not certain there.

[EgorK]

Well, Teproc N2 because I ghought XP were unlikely to perform NK, and I think veteran players meta as a whole is to do crazy things as scum lately, like voting for PRs that claimed to have caught scum. Gkrieg just came out scummy out of all this ash vs XP debacle, though I could not remember why for the hell of this. N4 I actually first submitted RR as target, but then decided it would be much better to confirm EFHW, more or less. That was big mistake, I should have keep it on RR or switch to ss, but I am layely has irrational fear of too towny players (hello, faust). N5 I did not think there is much chance I had shots, but why not?

Also I remember I gave out town read to Teproc D4, which was solely based on the fact there were kill N2. A minor point, but worth mentioning

[Roadrunner7671]

Okay, the less I talk the more likely I am to be dead. So let's start talking.

[Roadrunner7671]

My voting list is sort of garbage. Awaclus followed me more than I followed him. I could totally see him sheeping me because he knows how bad my reads are.

I'd also like to point out that there's a 24.7% chance of Egor being a roleblocker (I think that's what we finally came up with). That's really low! It doesn't look as low as we thought, but man, it's so unlikely! It's very reasonable to assume that Egor killed EFHW for the sheer truckload of WIFOM. I don't think I'd be bold enough as scum to kill her.

[Roadrunner7671]

I know change is scary, and changing your opinion may seem like a bad idea, so I guess I'd suggest consulting your gut @WW.
Good night.

[Witherweaver]

My voting list is sort of garbage. Awaclus followed me more than I followed him. I could totally see him sheeping me because he knows how bad my reads are.

I'd also like to point out that there's a 24.7% chance of Egor being a roleblocker (I think that's what we finally came up with). That's really low! It doesn't look as low as we thought, but man, it's so unlikely! It's very reasonable to assume that Egor killed EFHW for the sheer truckload of WIFOM. I don't think I'd be bold enough as scum to kill her.

Why?  How would scum!you respond to an EFHW that obviously wanted to lynch you?

[EgorK]

It is 1:20, not 24%. That's very unfortunate as WW need really huge town apriori read on me to overcome this probability. Seems like town just got unlucky with RNG this game

[Witherweaver]

It is 1:20, not 24%. That's very unfortunate as WW need really huge town apriori read on me to overcome this probability. Seems like town just got unlucky with RNG this game

No, the only thing relevant here is 5 PRs or not.  We just had to not roll {1,2,3} in the first four rolls.

[EgorK]

I really do not want to continue this discussion as incorrect chance calculation that you and EFHW insist on is beneficial to town in this case

[Witherweaver]

You mean, given that we had a Cop?  I suppose that's fair, but it still has little impact to how I'll decide

[Roadrunner7671]

My voting list is sort of garbage. Awaclus followed me more than I followed him. I could totally see him sheeping me because he knows how bad my reads are.

I'd also like to point out that there's a 24.7% chance of Egor being a roleblocker (I think that's what we finally came up with). That's really low! It doesn't look as low as we thought, but man, it's so unlikely! It's very reasonable to assume that Egor killed EFHW for the sheer truckload of WIFOM. I don't think I'd be bold enough as scum to kill her.

Why?  How would scum!you respond to an EFHW that obviously wanted to lynch you?

I have no idea.

[Witherweaver]

Then why did you say it would be bold?

[Roadrunner7671]

Then why did you say it would be bold?

Because killing EFHW is 'more likely' to come from scum me than scum Egor, right? So Egor would've killed EFHW to make me look more scummy.