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[silverspawn]

Noticable things on Egork reread

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Well, Awaclus reread wasn't that hard. Nothing really stand out from usual Awa play, at least from more modern Awaclus that we've seen last couple of games. He is good at being unreadable though, so all we have is his voting record, and that is no good - he voted ash D2 and unvoted from XP D3 (though I do not asign much weight to later). Vote: Awaclus for now

- scumslipped by saying he was bussing

- has a lot of content and makes sense. is this a scum!Egork or a town!Egork trait?

- claim

[Witherweaver]

I don't think the 'bus' thing was a scumslip; I specifically used the word, not him, and it easily means just 'voting' there.  I don't think it indicates anything.

[silverspawn]

What do you think of Egor's claim?  Keep in mind that he would still think I was a Vig when he claimed.

Claims are confusing me this game, because I've been following so loosely. Let me try to get back into things.

PR/no PR list (not here => conf!nonPR)

WW - CLAIMED VT
EgorK - CLAIMED PR
roadrunner
silverspawn
awaclus
ashersky - Rolecop
ADK - Cop
Teproc
EFHW

Assuming we have 4 PRs (I don't understand why that's guaranteed from reading the setup, but it seems very likely), he claimed to be the fourth.

Don't really see anything that makes that unbelievable.

I don't think the 'bus' thing was a scumslip; I specifically used the word, not him, and it easily means just 'voting' there.  I don't think it indicates anything.

yeah prob not

I think I'd make Egork mild town after this

[Witherweaver]

Go read the setup post more carefully.  I believe Egor has claimed to not be a Cop, so there has to be 4 PRs if he's telling the truth. 

[Awaclus]

WW - CLAIMED VT

No, he claimed vig and then he was forced to admit he was lying.

[Witherweaver]

WW - CLAIMED VT

No, he claimed vig and then he was forced to admit he was lying.

Voluntarily forced.

[Witherweaver]

Thing is if this was anyone other than Awaclus they would get town points for this.  Scum knows I'm town and generally has to gauge whether or not the mislynch looks reasonable.  Awaclus would do this as either alignment. 

[Awaclus]

Thing is if this was anyone other than Awaclus they would get town points for this.  Scum knows I'm town and generally has to gauge whether or not the mislynch looks reasonable.  Awaclus would do this as either alignment.

I don't care about town points, I care about getting you lynched because town knows you're scum and you're not a mislynch.

[Witherweaver]

Thing is if this was anyone other than Awaclus they would get town points for this.  Scum knows I'm town and generally has to gauge whether or not the mislynch looks reasonable.  Awaclus would do this as either alignment.

I don't care about town points, I care about getting you lynched because town knows you're scum and you're not a mislynch.

Seriously fucking stop it.  If you're trying to annoy me into voting for you, it will work.  That can't be beneficial to you as either alignment.

[Awaclus]

Thing is if this was anyone other than Awaclus they would get town points for this.  Scum knows I'm town and generally has to gauge whether or not the mislynch looks reasonable.  Awaclus would do this as either alignment.

I don't care about town points, I care about getting you lynched because town knows you're scum and you're not a mislynch.

Seriously fucking stop it.  If you're trying to annoy me into voting for you, it will work.  That can't be beneficial to you as either alignment.

I'll stop it when you're dead.

[Witherweaver]

No point.

Vote: Awaclus

[Awaclus]

No point.

Vote: Awaclus

Nice OMGUS.

[EFHW]

My POE is the same, silver, RR, Awaclus.  I think we get the most info from lynching Awaclus, I'm least in favor of lynching silver.

[Witherweaver]

Ignore list works well.

[Witherweaver]

My POE is the same, silver, RR, Awaclus.  I think we get the most info from lynching Awaclus, I'm least in favor of lynching silver.

I think it has to be Silver or Awaclus.  I don't really get any town impression from Silver; I think I actually might prefer him.  The latest reread effort feels like "I have to start looking townie this game".  I guess it could be done as town, too, but it does not feel particularly critical.

[Witherweaver]

Unvote

[Awaclus]

How is WW not the only one in everyone's PoE list? Holy shit, if this is how it works, then I'm going to claim cop D1 in every game where I'm scum and as soon as I'm counterclaimed, I'll go "jokes on you I was a VT all along" because apparently that gives you permanent lynchproof.

[EFHW]

You start the game just as likely to roll scum as anyone else.

Just because you have an indecipherable meta doesn't make you town. You are probably town here, but still, come on.

Yes, I have a chance to roll scum. But I don't feel like I did scummy stuff this game. And EFHW won't let it go, then it'll come down to MyLo, then we lose (assuming both me and EFHW are in the last three players).

I am putting a lot of pressure on you b/c I see things that indicate scumminess to me, but that also gives you the chance to show me your investment in town and the depth of thinking that went into your decisions.  Giving OMGUS as your reason for downgrading me from town to null is not towny.  It's more like flailing.  "RR hunting" will happen in every game at some point by someone. 

[EFHW]

How is WW not the only one in everyone's PoE list? Holy shit, if this is how it works, then I'm going to claim cop D1 in every game where I'm scum and as soon as I'm counterclaimed, I'll go "jokes on you I was a VT all along" because apparently that gives you permanent lynchproof.

He is not on the POE list b/c no one has given a credible narrative of why scum!him would have lied about being a vig.

[EFHW]

Do people agree with this? Has it changed there read on WW?

I'm not sure I follow it, but I think you are saying that scum would not have a good reason to lie about being a vig.  I agree with that.

[Awaclus]

How is WW not the only one in everyone's PoE list? Holy shit, if this is how it works, then I'm going to claim cop D1 in every game where I'm scum and as soon as I'm counterclaimed, I'll go "jokes on you I was a VT all along" because apparently that gives you permanent lynchproof.

He is not on the POE list b/c no one has given a credible narrative of why scum!him would have lied about being a vig.

Because now nobody wants to lynch him.

[EFHW]

How is WW not the only one in everyone's PoE list? Holy shit, if this is how it works, then I'm going to claim cop D1 in every game where I'm scum and as soon as I'm counterclaimed, I'll go "jokes on you I was a VT all along" because apparently that gives you permanent lynchproof.

He is not on the POE list b/c no one has given a credible narrative of why scum!him would have lied about being a vig.

Because now nobody wants to lynch him.

That's circular.

[Awaclus]

How is WW not the only one in everyone's PoE list? Holy shit, if this is how it works, then I'm going to claim cop D1 in every game where I'm scum and as soon as I'm counterclaimed, I'll go "jokes on you I was a VT all along" because apparently that gives you permanent lynchproof.

He is not on the POE list b/c no one has given a credible narrative of why scum!him would have lied about being a vig.

Because now nobody wants to lynch him.

That's circular.

No it's not. Him not getting lynched is apparently a direct result of him having a nonexistent town narrative, therefore it's extremely beneficial for scum!him to have a nonexistent town narrative.

[Witherweaver]

I'm sort of indifferent as I expect most PRS to lie, so there will be like 11 VTs, WW, and one more PR.

This is a bit of an odd statement.  Could it indicate discussion of fake claims in scum QT?

[EFHW]

silverspawn - What do you think about Awaclus as possible scum?

RR - same question