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[ashersky]

Also, I somehow missed all of posts 250-254 except the vote.

[ashersky]

Like,if we only got three PRs this game, the plan probably loses the game on the spot. Scum lets WW alive because who cares about vigs, kills and roleblocks the other two and we're done.

Maybe I'm against the plan after all.

It is insanity to assume that we could not win the game without PRs...

If three PRs, we are left with a 10-player pool. We can get like 5 kills in that pool in before we lose. One should assume that it's possible to kill 1 scum in 5 kills.

I won't deny that this is the worst-case scenario. However, scum does not know which scenario we're in, so I very much doubt they would all claim VT.

This is...crazy?  I'm not convinced the worst-case scenario isn't so bad.

[Teproc]

WW always thinks Awaclus is scum, just like you always think silver is scum.

[ashersky]

WW always thinks Awaclus is scum, just like you always think silver is scum.

I don't always think ss is...okay, maybe I do.

But I don't always KNOW ss is scum, like I did that one game.

In all seriousness, there is a town!ss that we've seen, and maybe ss is actively trying not to look like that to help his scum meta in the long term.  When he first started, he was so easy to catch as town -- like RR easy.

[yuma]

Final Day1 Vote Count

RR (2): EgorK, Awaclus
EFHW (1): gkrieg
WW (1): ss
hydrad (7): RR, Xerxes, WW, Teproc, ADK, faust, ashersky
gkrieg (1): EFHW
ss (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Hydrad has been lynched. He was a Vanilla Townie

Night1 Begins Now. Night1 will last 48 hours, Night Actions due in 36 hours. Night actions due via either PM or via Private QT by 7:00 pm forum time 1/14/16. Night1 will end 7:00 am forum 1/15/16.

Thread Locked!

[yuma]

Night action deadline has passed. Night will continue for 12 more hours.

[yuma]

Day2 Starts Now!

Faust died during the night. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Vote Count 2.0

Not Voting (11): RR, ADK, gkrieg, Xerxes, Awaclus, ss, EgorK, EFHW, ashersky, WW, Teproc

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day2 will last for 7 days and end January 22, 2016 at 8:00 am forum time.

Thread Unlocked!

[ashersky]

Not surprised at all.

[ashersky]

vote: XP

I have a PR -- and I caught him.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm dead today, I guess. I can sheep someone who I think is town, get policy lynched or lurk. But I am not accusing anyone today. I will talk more at 12:00 Forum Time. But yeah, I suck. I know.

[A Drowned Kernel]

vote: XP

I have a PR -- and I caught him.

Interesting. Going to give us any more?

[EgorK]

Vote: XP

[Teproc]

vote: XP

I have a PR -- and I caught him.

I think we need more than that.

[Teproc]

I'm dead today, I guess. I can sheep someone who I think is town, get policy lynched or lurk. But I am not accusing anyone today. I will talk more at 12:00 Forum Time. But yeah, I suck. I know.

What are you even talking about ?

[ashersky]

vote: XP

I have a PR -- and I caught him.

I think we need more than that.

I investigated him.

[Teproc]

vote: XP

I have a PR -- and I caught him.

I think we need more than that.

I investigated him.

Do you mean Cop or is this a cheeky answer ?

In any case, vote: ash

I have no particular information except that fakeclaiming a guilty result here is exactly what I expect scum!ash to do.

[ashersky]

vote: XP

I have a PR -- and I caught him.

I think we need more than that.

I investigated him.

Do you mean Cop or is this a cheeky answer ?

In any case, vote: ash

I have no particular information except that fakeclaiming a guilty result here is exactly what I expect scum!ash to do.

Not a cheeky answer.  Why would I fakeclaim a guilty result here?

Any why on XP?

I investigated XP, he's scum, the end.

[Teproc]

And ash's hammer here is a classic scum!ash move too. He does like hammering as town, yeah, but town!ash isn't antitown enough to do this in a setup that heavily punishes lynching PRs.

He's doing SuperMario!ash. In that game he got away with the most scummy things because he was too scummy to be scum, ended up a flawless scum victory I think.

PPE : Why not ? Maybe he's your partner, even. It's a weird investigation target by the way, why did you "investigate" him ?

[Teproc]

You would fakeclaim a guilty result here because

a) you know you're a likely lynch after that hammer.
b) many people here werein Marvel Heroes, in which scum fakeclaimed a guilty result on day 2, and you clearly said you thought it was a bad idea, so you're expecting us to believe you'd never do it
c) you have this theory that your scumteams do well when you get lynched early.
d) another one I'll talka about later, once XP has responded to this

[Teproc]

So you are claiming Cop specifically ?

[ashersky]

You would fakeclaim a guilty result here because

a) you know you're a likely lynch after that hammer.
b) many people here werein Marvel Heroes, in which scum fakeclaimed a guilty result on day 2, and you clearly said you thought it was a bad idea, so you're expecting us to believe you'd never do it
c) you have this theory that your scumteams do well when you get lynched early.
d) another one I'll talka about later, once XP has responded to this

Dude, if you think I was worried I'd get lynched for the D1 hammer, you have been replaced by a clone and are not the real Teproc.

Sometimes it is this easy.  If you want to see if you can get the town to follow your lead and lynch a claimed cop, go ahead.  If that's what f.ds mafia decides is the way to go, fine, although that seems ridiculously stupid.

We have a game with investigators, sometimes we just catch people.  That's how this game works.

This is a simple yes/no vote.  All players can decide to:

A) Lynch the guy with a guilty result on him, assuming the cop isn't lying.  If he is, you lynch the cop the next day.  (Note: this is the normal way of playing the game.)

B) Lynch the cop because why the hell not?

A = vote for XP.
B = vote for ashersky.

Literally, people should only post votes and nothing else until the day is over.

[yuma]

Vote Count 2.1

XP (2): ashersky, EgorK
ashersky (1): Teproc

Not Voting (8): RR, ADK, gkrieg, Xerxes, Awaclus, ss, EFHW, WW

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day2 will last for 7 days and end January 22, 2016 at 8:00 am forum time.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'd like to know how certain ash thinks his result is, given the setup. Answering with a stupid meme will cause me to vote for you.

[Teproc]

You"re acting as if lynching the Cop first is always dumb, but it really isn't if you the think the Cop is very likely to be fakeclaiming.

People should not "post votes and nothing else", that's antitown, the whole point of these things is to have people take stances so that we can look back at them later and judge them based on flips. You know this, don't act as if you didn't.

Your hammer was scummy and you know it. And you know I'm not someone who goes for the typical "ash is being ash" lynches. My first thing was going to be a vote for you wihtout this, and I'm guessing you, being the savvy player you are, saw the pressure coming and decide to preempt it with a claim.

[ashersky]

I'd like to know how certain ash thinks his result is, given the setup. Answering with a stupid meme will cause me to vote for you.

I've never posted a meme in my life.

I'm very certain.