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Author Topic: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Game Over)  (Read 113349 times)

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (3 slots left)
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2015, 08:35:44 pm »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (3 slots left)
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2015, 08:36:38 pm »

Just kind of wanted to confirm that I still want to play this setup. Totally didn't forget that I had already signed up or anything like that.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now!
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2015, 10:34:48 am »

- No role may successfully target itself.
Fixed that for me.

Does that mean that if someone is bus driven onto himself, the action will fail?

See this is why you guys are nice to have around, catching stuff like this. Let's see how to correctly word this to get the following rulings across:

- A player may target themselves, this will use up a shot.
- The action taken by that player will not have any effect on themselves
- If bus driven to take an action upon themselves the action will have an effect.

Let's try:

- Roles may self target and will use up a shot, but unless the self targeting was caused by bus driving the role will not have an effect.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (3 slots left)
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2016, 09:45:11 am »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (3 slots left)
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2016, 09:46:50 am »

- No role may successfully target itself.
Fixed that for me.

Does that mean that if someone is bus driven onto himself, the action will fail?

See this is why you guys are nice to have around, catching stuff like this. Let's see how to correctly word this to get the following rulings across:

- A player may target themselves, this will use up a shot.
- The action taken by that player will not have any effect on themselves
- If bus driven to take an action upon themselves the action will have an effect.

Let's try:

- Roles may self target and will use up a shot, but unless the self targeting was caused by bus driving the role will not have an effect.

Why are you even allowing them to self-target at all in the first place ? Wouldn't it be cleaner to just say town roles can't self-target ? Then Bus Driver trumps that obviously and you're good to go.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (3 slots left)
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2016, 09:56:52 am »

I think it is possible to just say "no role may choose themselves as a target".

The only thing this does not allow is strategic self-targetting hoping that a Bus Driver redirects the shot to someone else... but I think that's a very narrow strategic space anyway.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (3 slots left)
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2016, 10:20:34 am »

Why are you even allowing them to self-target at all in the first place ? Wouldn't it be cleaner to just say town roles can't self-target ? Then Bus Driver trumps that obviously and you're good to go.

Well I want there to be a mechanism where someone could choose to use up a shot but be guaranteed to have it do nothing and have no effect. It is kind of like the Ace card that Goko implemented for Wishing Well. This I feel is necessary because the game is working under a limited number of shots from which to pull.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (3 slots left)
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2016, 10:34:59 am »

Why are you even allowing them to self-target at all in the first place ? Wouldn't it be cleaner to just say town roles can't self-target ? Then Bus Driver trumps that obviously and you're good to go.

Well I want there to be a mechanism where someone could choose to use up a shot but be guaranteed to have it do nothing and have no effect. It is kind of like the Ace card that Goko implemented for Wishing Well. This I feel is necessary because the game is working under a limited number of shots from which to pull.

You could just add a Use Shot mechanism that does exactly that and nothing else.  You can choose to do it in lieu of an action.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (2 slots left)
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2016, 10:38:06 am »

That's even more convoluted. Yuma's current wording seems better if he wants that option, I doubt it'll be used though.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (2 slots left)
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2016, 10:40:50 am »

Why are you even allowing them to self-target at all in the first place ? Wouldn't it be cleaner to just say town roles can't self-target ? Then Bus Driver trumps that obviously and you're good to go.

Well I want there to be a mechanism where someone could choose to use up a shot but be guaranteed to have it do nothing and have no effect. It is kind of like the Ace card that Goko implemented for Wishing Well. This I feel is necessary because the game is working under a limited number of shots from which to pull.

You could just add a Use Shot mechanism that does exactly that and nothing else.  You can choose to do it in lieu of an action.

I suppose if you want a tracker/watcher to see you take an action, you need to target someone, even if the action is going to fail.  I could see some edge case uses.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (2 slots left)
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2016, 11:08:54 am »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (2 slots left)
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2016, 12:28:13 pm »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (1 slot left)
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2016, 09:36:54 pm »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (1 slot left)
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2016, 12:24:26 am »

Yay!
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Full: Locked Except for Tags)
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2016, 12:21:03 pm »

We are full!

PMs to come out shortly. Thread locked for all players and spectators except to /tag. Day1 will likely start sometime around Monday morning depending on when I get PMs sent.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Night0: Locked Except for Tags)
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2016, 06:30:24 pm »

PMs have been sent out. Day1 will start after all players have confirmed at Monday 8 am, forum time, at the earliest.

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Full: Locked Except for Tags)
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2016, 07:04:03 pm »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Full: Locked Except for Tags)
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2016, 08:31:08 pm »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Full: Locked Except for Tags)
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2016, 10:00:45 pm »

still awaiting some confirmations. Again game won't start until all players have confirmed receipt.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Full: Locked Except for Tags)
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2016, 04:01:23 am »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day1)
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2016, 08:16:32 am »

Day1 Starts Now!


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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Full: Locked Except for Tags)
« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2016, 08:24:36 am »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Full: Locked Except for Tags)
« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2016, 08:29:36 am »

Vote: silverspawn

He's got to be scum here.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day1)
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2016, 08:35:03 am »

vote: RR

He's got to be scum here.

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