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[yuma]

I'd go back to Hydrad, I just thought that one of Eevee/yuma was scum, so with Eevee not being scum...

Why did you think that, again?

[yuma]

Still saying yuma + SS.

Noted.

[ashersky]

Still saying yuma + SS.

Noted.

How do you feel about lynching SS?

[yuma]

Still saying yuma + SS.

Noted.

How do you feel about lynching SS?

Hesitant.

[gkrieg13]

I'd go back to Hydrad, I just thought that one of Eevee/yuma was scum, so with Eevee not being scum...

Why did you think that, again?

Rereads are hard on a phone. I think it was because of wagon analysis.

[Hydrad]

asher an IC wants to lynch ss so obviously you all have to. Stop your silly ideas of lynching Hydrad.

[Eevee]

Spotty access for the following 24 hours, but I'm the firefighter.

Ok. So I didn't see anyone counter claim this, so eevee is off the table. I felt that hydrad and eevee were scummy for the same reason... quoting myself on this:

i would say eevee/hydrad are most suspect. they use gkrieg's case for a vote, but apparently aren't concerned that the person who created it isn't voting. I don't know if they are both scum here, but they both responded pretty similarly (ss did as well, but eventually left the wagon, so I don't know if this applies as much to him). That makes me feel like they are less concerned about whether or not the case was created with genuinity or not and more about whether or not it was a safe place for their vote.

But now that one is town it makes me wonder if it isn't actually scummy. Maybe Eevee can help? Eevee, what is your town narrative, since you are apparently town, for the above. Do you think there is a scum narrative for what you/hydrad did?

I don't really understand this. Iirc, gkrieg did rereads on people, after seeing his summary of someone's play, I voted for them. I don't really need him to draw the same conclusions from the data than myself to vote, and I don't understand why it should matter to me.

[Awaclus]

v0te: Hydrad

[silverspawn]

Unofficial Vote Count 3.6:

Eevee (1): Joseph2302
Hydrad (4): Eevee, silverspawn, Roadrunner7671, Awaclus {L-1}
silverspawn (1): Hydrad
yuma (1): gkrieg13

Not Voting (2): yuma, ashersky

[Eevee]

I'm a little worried this Hydrad thing is driven by all the unknowns (from my perspective) and none of the IC's.

[silverspawn]

I'm a little worried this Hydrad thing is driven by all the unknowns (from my perspective) and none of the IC's.

you are an IC from your perspective!

[Eevee]

I'm a little worried this Hydrad thing is driven by all the unknowns (from my perspective) and none of the IC's.

you are an IC from your perspective!

Only one on the wagon! Whereas Joseph and ash push other lynches (joseph inexplicably mine). Basically, out of the potential scum pool everyone but yuma, gkrieg and hydrad himself are on his wagon. Either there is bussing, or yuma or gkrieg is the partner.

[Eevee]

... or Hydrad is town.

[silverspawn]

well, ash is always voting for me, so it's just Joseph

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm here! Don't prod me!

[Hydrad]

I feel like this could be scum going for me since I'm not set on fire and then they potentially just win. But I don't really know how to defend myself here

[silverspawn]

I feel like this could be scum going for me since I'm not set on fire and then they potentially just win. But I don't really know how to defend myself here

you could make a better case on someone else.

[Roadrunner7671]

Why haven't we really looked at Yuma?

[yuma]

Spotty access for the following 24 hours, but I'm the firefighter.

Ok. So I didn't see anyone counter claim this, so eevee is off the table. I felt that hydrad and eevee were scummy for the same reason... quoting myself on this:

i would say eevee/hydrad are most suspect. they use gkrieg's case for a vote, but apparently aren't concerned that the person who created it isn't voting. I don't know if they are both scum here, but they both responded pretty similarly (ss did as well, but eventually left the wagon, so I don't know if this applies as much to him). That makes me feel like they are less concerned about whether or not the case was created with genuinity or not and more about whether or not it was a safe place for their vote.

But now that one is town it makes me wonder if it isn't actually scummy. Maybe Eevee can help? Eevee, what is your town narrative, since you are apparently town, for the above. Do you think there is a scum narrative for what you/hydrad did?

I don't really understand this. Iirc, gkrieg did rereads on people, after seeing his summary of someone's play, I voted for them. I don't really need him to draw the same conclusions from the data than myself to vote, and I don't understand why it should matter to me.

I guess that is fair. I think I took it that the two of you were agreeing with his assessment of ash, not just viewing the data that he presented. Because gkrieg presented him as scummy, but didn't vote for him...

Actually that isn't true. I had remembered incorrectly. gkrieg says this at the end:

Interesting thing here is that there isn't that much substance to his posts.  There isn't any theory talk to be had, so that might be one reason.  He only votes for RR and ss, both people he has a history of voting for.  He might be trying to emulate his meta, or he might just think they are scum this game.  Overall null read on him.  Nothing too scummy, and nothing too towny. 

I had remembered gkrieg finding ash scummy enough to vote but wanted to vote elsewhere and eevee/hydrad using the case that wasn't good enough as a reason to vote. But that isn't what happened.

[yuma]

I'd go back to Hydrad, I just thought that one of Eevee/yuma was scum, so with Eevee not being scum...

Why did you think that, again?

Rereads are hard on a phone. I think it was because of wagon analysis.

Right that is what I meant. What made you think that from your wagon analysis. I'll find the pertinent quote:

So yuma and Eevee were the only two on both of the mislynches.  Neither of them were on the RR L-1.

The biggest thing I have is a strong town read on Awaclus.

Ash made his wagon analysis a little more difficult with the self-hammer.

Assuming both scum were on the last mislynch, we need one person that wasn't on the first mislynch, and were on the second.

This leaves yuma or Eevee, and RR or Hydrad.

So I get that you made these assumptions, but I don't get how you got to those points. Why are you assuming both scum were on the last mislynch? What information do you have that would point in that direction? That is what I am asking...

[yuma]

Why haven't we really looked at Yuma?

I think people have... I mean ash basically required people to look at me and a sizable group (inexplicably excluding ash himself) came away from that and found me townie...

[silverspawn]

yuma, what do you think about the Hydrad case/lynch?

You seem to be avoiding the issue. It gives me scum partner vibes.

[yuma]

yuma, what do you think about the Hydrad case/lynch?

You seem to be avoiding the issue. It gives me scum partner vibes.

How am I avoiding it...? I just barely asked Eevee to respond to what I felt was something scummy that both he and Hydrad did. But as mentioned above I misunderstood that situation.

So I don't know how I feel, I was leaning scummy on him but feel like that was based off me not understanding properly.

[silverspawn]

mhhh

you also didn't vote.

[yuma]

mhhh

you also didn't vote.

yes. I also didn't v0te. Which is two separate things...