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Excerpt from adventures rulebook:

When a player discards a Traveller from play, he may exchange it for the card indicated; he returns the card being exchanged to its pile, takes the card he is exchanging it for, and puts that card into his discard pile. For example when exchanging Peasant for
Soldier, he puts Peasant back into its pile and takes a Soldier and puts it into his discard pile. Exchanging is not trashing or gaining, and so does not trigger abilities like Travelling Fair's.

Does pile count as the black market pile?

[JW]

Does pile count as the black market pile?

If you bought a Traveller from the Black Market, you're out of luck. http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Traveller

Exchanging must happen both ways; there must be somewhere for the discarding card to return to. If a Traveller is bought using Black Market, there is no pile to return it to and therefore it cannot be exchanged.

[pst]

See http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13044.msg483948 for official ruling. It turns out that there is a specific meaning of "exchange" that isn't in the printed rules.

[GendoIkari]

Vote to close as duplicate.

Oh wait, this isn't StackExchange. Never mind.

[werothegreat]

Fuck StackExchange.

[GendoIkari]

Fuck StackExchange.

Umm, what?

[werothegreat]

Fuck StackExchange.

Umm, what?

The whole "close as duplicate" thing, I dunno, there just seems to be this attitude that pervades stackexchange that I dislike.  It's as if the entire website fancies itself a university department - they have no interest in actually, you know, telling you how to do something.  They expect you to struggle through the answer first, and then maybe they'll point out a couple things you did wrong.  That method of teaching just grates on me so much.  If you're going to teach someone, teach them.  The whole "you'll learn better if you struggle through it" is bullshit.  I think what it is is that programmers have this whole "that's the way I learned it, so that's how you should learn it, too" attitude that is just so stupid.  Ugh.

[eHalcyon]

Fuck StackExchange.

Umm, what?

The whole "close as duplicate" thing, I dunno, there just seems to be this attitude that pervades stackexchange that I dislike.  It's as if the entire website fancies itself a university department - they have no interest in actually, you know, telling you how to do something.  They expect you to struggle through the answer first, and then maybe they'll point out a couple things you did wrong.  That method of teaching just grates on me so much.  If you're going to teach someone, teach them.  The whole "you'll learn better if you struggle through it" is bullshit.  I think what it is is that programmers have this whole "that's the way I learned it, so that's how you should learn it, too" attitude that is just so stupid.  Ugh.

I feel like you have a misunderstanding of how programmers work and learn.

[Deadlock39]

Fuck StackExchange.

Umm, what?

The whole "close as duplicate" thing, I dunno, there just seems to be this attitude that pervades stackexchange that I dislike.  It's as if the entire website fancies itself a university department - they have no interest in actually, you know, telling you how to do something.  They expect you to struggle through the answer first, and then maybe they'll point out a couple things you did wrong.  That method of teaching just grates on me so much.  If you're going to teach someone, teach them.  The whole "you'll learn better if you struggle through it" is bullshit.  I think what it is is that programmers have this whole "that's the way I learned it, so that's how you should learn it, too" attitude that is just so stupid.  Ugh.

I feel like you have a misunderstanding of how programmers work and learn.

Give a man a fish...

Edit: I was a bit unnecessarily terse and abrasive here...

The thing about StackOverflow is that for the vast majority of situations you probably (really really) don't want to try posting a new topic there.  If you have a simple programming question odds are exceedingly low it hasn't already been asked there 10 times. Say what you want about their policies, but they have a goal for their website and they have certainly nailed it. If I type a programming question into Google, in 90% of cases, the top result is StackOverflow, and 90% of the time that result has the answer I was looking for. This is what StackOverflow wants, and it is the driving force behind most of their policies. Their CEO came and spoke to all of Software Engineering at my company. It was really pretty fascinating to hear about their process.

[werothegreat]

Fuck StackExchange.

Umm, what?

The whole "close as duplicate" thing, I dunno, there just seems to be this attitude that pervades stackexchange that I dislike.  It's as if the entire website fancies itself a university department - they have no interest in actually, you know, telling you how to do something.  They expect you to struggle through the answer first, and then maybe they'll point out a couple things you did wrong.  That method of teaching just grates on me so much.  If you're going to teach someone, teach them.  The whole "you'll learn better if you struggle through it" is bullshit.  I think what it is is that programmers have this whole "that's the way I learned it, so that's how you should learn it, too" attitude that is just so stupid.  Ugh.

I feel like you have a misunderstanding of how programmers work and learn.

Give a man a fish...

Edit: I was a bit unnecessarily terse and abrasive here...

The thing about StackExchange is that for the vast majority of situations you probably (really really) don't want to try posting a new topic there.  If you have a simple programming question odds are exceedingly low it hasn't already been asked there 10 times. Say what you want about their policies, but they have a goal for their website and they have certainly nailed it. If I type a programming question into Google, in 90% of cases, the top result is StackExchange, and 90% of the time that result has the answer I was looking for. This is what StackExchange wants, and it is the driving force behind most of their policies. Their CEO came and spoke to all of Software Engineering at my company. It was really pretty fascinating to hear about their process.

Okay, that's certainly true.  But it's still not a particularly friendly environment for someone new to programming.

[eHalcyon]

Fuck StackExchange.

Umm, what?

The whole "close as duplicate" thing, I dunno, there just seems to be this attitude that pervades stackexchange that I dislike.  It's as if the entire website fancies itself a university department - they have no interest in actually, you know, telling you how to do something.  They expect you to struggle through the answer first, and then maybe they'll point out a couple things you did wrong.  That method of teaching just grates on me so much.  If you're going to teach someone, teach them.  The whole "you'll learn better if you struggle through it" is bullshit.  I think what it is is that programmers have this whole "that's the way I learned it, so that's how you should learn it, too" attitude that is just so stupid.  Ugh.

I feel like you have a misunderstanding of how programmers work and learn.

Give a man a fish...

Edit: I was a bit unnecessarily terse and abrasive here...

The thing about StackExchange is that for the vast majority of situations you probably (really really) don't want to try posting a new topic there.  If you have a simple programming question odds are exceedingly low it hasn't already been asked there 10 times. Say what you want about their policies, but they have a goal for their website and they have certainly nailed it. If I type a programming question into Google, in 90% of cases, the top result is StackExchange, and 90% of the time that result has the answer I was looking for. This is what StackExchange wants, and it is the driving force behind most of their policies. Their CEO came and spoke to all of Software Engineering at my company. It was really pretty fascinating to hear about their process.

Okay, that's certainly true.  But it's still not a particularly friendly environment for someone new to programming.

And it doesn't have to be.  If you're so new that you can't search and then follow the already given answer, there are other websites that are far more appropriate.  Read through some tutorials, take some actual lessons.  A lot of programming is about combining and applying previous bits of knowledge in novel ways.  To learn programming is to learn how to do that, rather than have every little thing spelled out for you.  Even then, StackExchange helps out a lot with specific instructions, so long as you are able to use the search function.

[GendoIkari]

Also, you guys are mixing up StackExchange with StackOverflow. StackExchange is a platform used by hundreds of Q&A websites, the largest of which is StackOverflow. The Board and Card Games StackExchange site is a great place to get answers about board games.

[werothegreat]

And it doesn't have to be.  If you're so new that you can't search and then follow the already given answer, there are other websites that are far more appropriate.  Read through some tutorials, take some actual lessons.  A lot of programming is about combining and applying previous bits of knowledge in novel ways.  To learn programming is to learn how to do that, rather than have every little thing spelled out for you.  Even then, StackExchange helps out a lot with specific instructions, so long as you are able to use the search function.

True, but there is an extreme dearth of resources for intermediate levels - there's all sorts of "Hello world!" tutorials out there, and a lot of advanced pick-at-your-code expert help, but very little in the way of "okay, now let's write a real program" sorts of guides.

[Deadlock39]

Also, you guys are mixing up StackExchange with StackOverflow. StackExchange is a platform used by hundreds of Q&A websites, the largest of which is StackOverflow. The Board and Card Games StackExchange site is a great place to get answers about board games.

[markusin]

Also, you guys are mixing up StackExchange with StackOverflow. StackExchange is a platform used by hundreds of Q&A websites, the largest of which is StackOverflow. The Board and Card Games StackExchange site is a great place to get answers about board games.

Yeah I think in this case it would have been good to clearly emphasize either StackOverflow or StackExchange. Saying StackExchange sucks because it's unfriendly to programmers isn't very logical.

[461.weavile]

eHalcyon, are... are you... putting two spaces after every sentence? I... I can't process. I don't assume to know when you were taught how to type, but unless every character takes up the same width, the recommended use for spaces has been one space for about 20 years

[eHalcyon]

eHalcyon, are... are you... putting two spaces after every sentence? I... I can't process. I don't assume to know when you were taught how to type, but unless every character takes up the same width, the recommended use for spaces has been one space for about 20 years

I'm aware of the modern recommendation.  It's muscle memory at this point though.

[gkrieg13]

eHalcyon, are... are you... putting two spaces after every sentence? I... I can't process. I don't assume to know when you were taught how to type, but unless every character takes up the same width, the recommended use for spaces has been one space for about 20 years

I'm aware of the modern recommendation.  It's muscle memory at this point though.

I do the same thing.

[enfynet]

I'd Rather See Two Spaces After Each Sentence Than See Capitalized Words Through The Whole Thing.

[AdamH]

Wow.

[sudgy]

I've always used two spaces.   What's so bad about it?

[GendoIkari]

I've always used two spaces.   What's so bad about it?

Wastes disc space. Servers aren't free you know!

[Davio]

I've always used two spaces.   What's so bad about it?

Tabs!

[singletee]

I've always used two spaces.   What's so bad about it?

When you mess up and accidentally put in three spaces. Then all of society comes crashing down.

[Kirian]

eHalcyon, are... are you... putting two spaces after every sentence? I... I can't process. I don't assume to know when you were taught how to type, but unless every character takes up the same width, the recommended use for spaces has been one space for about 20 years

I'm aware of the modern recommendation.  It's muscle memory at this point though.

I do the same thing.

Same here.  Muscle memory from submitting stories in monospaced fonts.