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[Roadrunner7671]

Why can't we kill WW today and kill PPS tomorow if WW is town?

[iguanaiguana]

Why can't we kill WW today and kill PPS tomorow if WW is town?

1. Thats what PPS wants us to do.
2. You want to kill WW mainly because he's voting you.

[Roadrunner7671]

I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

[iguanaiguana]

I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

Actually its more likely that PPS is lying.

[Roadrunner7671]

I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

Actually its more likely that PPS is lying.

How is it more likely? Is there a statistic?

[iguanaiguana]

I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

Actually its more likely that PPS is lying.

How is it more likely? Is there a statistic?

Its reads based

[yuma]

Vote Count 3.7

witherweaver (2): pps, Hydrad
Roadrunner (1): WW
PPS (3): faust, Xerxes, iguanaiguana
Xerxes (1): Ampharos

Not Voting (3): EgorK, Jimmmmm, RR

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

Day3 ends on November 16, 2015 at 9:30 forum time

[XerxesPraelor]

I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

Then vote him.

[Roadrunner7671]

I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

Then vote him.

I will vote in the morning after there is more discussion. I try not to throw votes around, that's no fun for the mods.

[EgorK]

Finally at home and had good night of sleep. Will need to reread all of D3 though

[faust]

I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

Then vote him.

I will vote in the morning after there is more discussion. I try not to throw votes around, that's no fun for the mods.

As a mod, I disagree.

[faust]

I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

Actually its more likely that PPS is lying.

How is it more likely? Is there a statistic?

Yes. PPS is 100% lying, WW is not.

[pingpongsam]

I'm pretty much done trying to defend what should not need defending.

Everyone demands a claim so you shall have it.

I am a Copping Absorbent Governor.

Each night I can cop for an alignment tell. N1 I copped Jimmmmm and received Guilty and Not Guilty for the result. N2 I copped WW and got guilty as a result.

Each night I can target a person and they are added to a lounging list of people I can then prevent a lynch on. That is, the votes have to cause a lynch and then I can cause the votes to reset for the day. This is why there was a substantial delay in the day ending.

If someone targets me with a non killing action I will take on whatever role power they targeted me with. This is at the expense of losing both my cop and governor powers that night. It resets my governor list when I revert back to my original role the next night.

Due to the wording and my unfamiliarity with the absorbing role I got things a bit confused and thought I had to be directly referenced (actually, targeted) in order to respond and in doing so said person was added to the list. I had all of that completely wrong and understood what I described above after a series of mod clarifications.

[pingpongsam]

Oh, yeah, N1 I targeted silverspawn because in light of the D1 flip I felt certain he was town and that he was a likely lynch candidate for D2. My power works post lynch, it cannot prevent a night kill. Scum killed e, his lover.

N2 I targeted Faust because I thought and still think he is likely town. So, right now I can reset a lynch on Faust.

[faust]

Yeah, uh... It's still not possible to target 2 different people with that role. And the role does in no way fit the "2 roles with 2 modifiers" thing. It's three roles if you want to express it like that at all.

Also, Governor is generally an anti-town power.

[faust]

If anyone targetted PPS at some point, that would probably be a good thing to claim.

[pingpongsam]

Yeah, uh... It's still not possible to target 2 different people with that role. And the role does in no way fit the "2 roles with 2 modifiers" thing. It's three roles if you want to express it like that at all.

Also, Governor is generally an anti-town power.

Whatever. Your whole argument just fell apart and you are grasping at straws now. I can cop and I can govern. Two separate targeting powers at night. Absorbing modifies both powers just as I asserted while trying to not make it too clear how I could be thwarted. I have 2 power roles and both are modified.

A town governor who has cop results is in no way an anti-town power.

[pingpongsam]

If anyone targetted PPS at some point, that would probably be a good thing to claim.

Oh, you mean to say you won't just go ahead and claim some crap to try and put your case back together?
Or are you just hoping scum claims something so I can be made to look a liar?

I have confirmed that if I absorb a power I will be notified. No one has targeted me the last 2 nights with a non-killing power.

[pingpongsam]

At this point I could confirm my status by resetting a lynch on faust or someone can target me tonight and I can confirm what I absorbed last night. So, do you guys really think I would just fakeclaim all this confirmable stuff just live one more miserable day? Can we please lynch WW, now?

[faust]

Yeah, uh... It's still not possible to target 2 different people with that role. And the role does in no way fit the "2 roles with 2 modifiers" thing. It's three roles if you want to express it like that at all.

Also, Governor is generally an anti-town power.

Whatever. Your whole argument just fell apart and you are grasping at straws now. I can cop and I can govern. Two separate targeting powers at night. Absorbing modifies both powers just as I asserted while trying to not make it too clear how I could be thwarted. I have 2 power roles and both are modified.

A town governor who has cop results is in no way an anti-town power.

I don't see how my argument fell apart at all...

You say you can cop and govern; why should we believe you? Xerxes stated clearly that he cannot use his role-modifier seperately, so you claiming you can is inconsistent with that. Absorbing arguably modifies the Governor since it resets the list, but really it does not modify "copping" in any way. Also, Absorber is a role unto itself and not a modifier.

You lied. You try to cover up now, and as expected you're doing a decent job, but this cannot undo that you A) claimed something earlier that you by now took back (i.e. that you have 2 roles with 2 modifiers) and B) that you claim your role works in a way that does not fit with the way someone else claims such a role would work.

[faust]

At this point I could confirm my status by resetting a lynch on faust or someone can target me tonight and I can confirm what I absorbed last night. So, do you guys really think I would just fakeclaim all this confirmable stuff just live one more miserable day? Can we please lynch WW, now?

Yeah, cool, let's try to get the conf!town guy lynched!

Also confirming that you have absorbing powers does not confirm you are town.

[pingpongsam]

You say you can cop and govern; why should we believe you? Xerxes stated clearly that he cannot use his role-modifier seperately, so you claiming you can is inconsistent with that.

So, Xerxes is conftown too, now? Is it really so far fetched that maybe everyone doesn't have exactly the same configuration despite how you choose to interpret the setup parameters?

Absorbing arguably modifies the Governor since it resets the list, but really it does not modify "copping" in any way. Also, Absorber is a role unto itself and not a modifier.

You are simply wrong here. I am not an "absorber", thus, it is not a third "role", I am not an "absorbing governor" which would affect only the governing power, I am "absorbent", an overall modifier that takes effect reflexively. The modifier effects both "roles" Technically the only role I have is governor that can be replaced by my absorbent modifier. I have another modifier that effectively gives me a second role as cop which is also overridden by the absorbent modifier. It all adds up to what I was trying to tell everyone without outright nuking my ability to use the powers.

blah blah blather

[pingpongsam]

At this point I could confirm my status by resetting a lynch on faust or someone can target me tonight and I can confirm what I absorbed last night. So, do you guys really think I would just fakeclaim all this confirmable stuff just live one more miserable day? Can we please lynch WW, now?

Yeah, cool, let's try to get the conf!town guy lynched!

Also confirming that you have absorbing powers does not confirm you are town.

Right, I agree, pushing you to a lynch right now is not a good plan, my point is it is actually confirmable.

Also, I concede your point that confirming my powers do not prove me town it just proves I am not lying which is the entire basis for thinking I may not be town. That I have put all of this out there is simply not what any scum player, even myself, would do.

[faust]

At this point I could confirm my status by resetting a lynch on faust or someone can target me tonight and I can confirm what I absorbed last night. So, do you guys really think I would just fakeclaim all this confirmable stuff just live one more miserable day? Can we please lynch WW, now?

Yeah, cool, let's try to get the conf!town guy lynched!

Also confirming that you have absorbing powers does not confirm you are town.

Right, I agree, pushing you to a lynch right now is not a good plan, my point is it is actually confirmable.

Also, I concede your point that confirming my powers do not prove me town it just proves I am not lying which is the entire basis for thinking I may not be town. That I have put all of this out there is simply not what any scum player, even myself, would do.

You can have absorbing powers and the whole rest of your claim can still be a lie.

[faust]

Also there is no way of confirming the absorbing part prior to N4, right? Tonight you would be targetted, the following night you would be able to use the role.

Surviving until D5 is probably already pretty much a win for you at this point.