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[EgorK]

because he has been less active than other people and he becomes a fallback lynch

Hey, this is exactly what I try to avoid with my play this time. Had I failed this?

Now, about my reads.

I find Hydrad mildly scummy because of his "town slip". I think he had not done so as town. But then I can confuse him with Joseph as they have somewhat similar playstyles

I wrote enough about WW

RR - idk, his reactions seem legit, but I have nothing to compare him to especially because scum has no partners here, which changes everything a bit

Faust - I can only repeat what e said

I do not really know where to put Awa and e here. I had not reread them and by just following thread they had not stand out. I guess I am too lazy to reread until D2.

I guess I want to lynch someone from Hydrad and WW, would not terribly mind RR and faust. Later because while he is great asset of town if he is town he is terribly dangerous if he is scum

[Awaclus]

2.7, what you just said is HUGE, at least for me. You said that town like to do what I do, but scum like to do it more. Here's the thing: you have never seen scum RR! I am sure, like all of us, he will have unique tells. Until you can get a grasp of what those are (or until more evidence is opinion) I do not think your vote on me iswhat's best for the town. And you have the town's interests at heart, right 2.7?

Just because you've never finished a scum game doesn't mean you'll have lynch immunity in all of your games or that it's not in town's interests to lynch you. We don't know what you in particular are like when you're scum, but I don't think the individual differences regarding that are very big or anything. As town, you want town to win, as scum, you want scum to win, and one way or another that's always going to show. Fighting against your lynch suggests the former, but it also very much suggests the latter, and that's basically the only thing you've done.

[Roadrunner7671]

I haven't really seen strong reactions from anyone, I'm not going to make a huge case based on little evidence. That wouldn't advance the town. Instead, I am trying not to get lynched so that we can actually find some scum.

[Awaclus]

I haven't really seen strong reactions from anyone, I'm not going to make a huge case based on little evidence.

You are never going to see strong reactions from anyone. You need to reach conclusions based on little evidence.

[faust]

I voted you because I wanted to see how you would respond to pressure.  I was hoping someone would follow and put you at L-1, really.  Hence, 'there's an easier way'.  But I didn't get so much from it, you're still pretty null.  Faust seems to have strengthened his town read, but I don't know if I trust Faust.

Vote: Awaclus

Why would you not trust me? Even if I'm scum, my reads would still be genuine.

[faust]

I still like my WW vote. Though I might be convinced on Awaclus. He feels off here.

[Awaclus]

I just stopped liking my WW vote. Vote: RR

[faust]

Vote: Awaclus

[Witherweaver]

I voted you because I wanted to see how you would respond to pressure.  I was hoping someone would follow and put you at L-1, really.  Hence, 'there's an easier way'.  But I didn't get so much from it, you're still pretty null.  Faust seems to have strengthened his town read, but I don't know if I trust Faust.

Vote: Awaclus

Why would you not trust me? Even if I'm scum, my reads would still be genuine.

What can I say, you're just not trustworthy.  I mean, you've left your Library in ruins for, like,  years.  Pick up some books or dust or something.

But seriously, you've argued against what you're saying now before.  As scum in this situation, you don't have the same knowledge as in other games, but you are biased by knowing you're scum and wanting to look town, so your head tells you "play like I play town", which does lead you to "find scum", but it's subtly different than coming in as town in the first place.    You may be motivated, then, to say things that make you look townie, or do things that you think you would normally do as town.

[faust]

I voted you because I wanted to see how you would respond to pressure.  I was hoping someone would follow and put you at L-1, really.  Hence, 'there's an easier way'.  But I didn't get so much from it, you're still pretty null.  Faust seems to have strengthened his town read, but I don't know if I trust Faust.

Vote: Awaclus

Why would you not trust me? Even if I'm scum, my reads would still be genuine.

What can I say, you're just not trustworthy.  I mean, you've left your Library in ruins for, like,  years.  Pick up some books or dust or something.

But seriously, you've argued against what you're saying now before.  As scum in this situation, you don't have the same knowledge as in other games, but you are biased by knowing you're scum and wanting to look town, so your head tells you "play like I play town", which does lead you to "find scum", but it's subtly different than coming in as town in the first place.    You may be motivated, then, to say things that make you look townie, or do things that you think you would normally do as town.

Well, I agree that I may act differently as scum, sure. My question is, do you think I would suspect different people if I was scum? You seemed to imply tht my reads cannot be trusted, but why would scum!me not do his best to find scum?

[Witherweaver]

Hm.. I think we tend to exaggerate reads as scum, even if not intentionally.  So someone that is null, maybe town may move to "definitely town", for example. 

And, possibly yes.  If you think that other people think that town!you would or would not go after a particular player, then you will act to meet those perceived expectations.

At any rate, I'm not sure how to read RR.  I don't know if anything we've seen from him is indicative of alignment or simply indicative of him himself. 

[Roadrunner7671]

Vote: Awaclus

Vote: Awaclus

[EgorK]

Vote: RR

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.12:

Witherweaver (1): Hydrad
RR (3): 2.7, Awaclus, EgorK
Awaclus (4): gkrieg13, Witherweaver, faust, RR

Not Voting (0):

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 1 at 5:00 a.m. forum time.

[Roadrunner7671]

Uh oh, I might actually die. Let's think about this, okay?

I'm not scum.

[gkrieg13]

Uh oh, I might actually die. Let's think about this, okay?

I'm not scum.

Why are you sheeping someone who is not confirmed town?

[2.71828.....]

Uh oh, I might actually die. Let's think about this, okay?

I'm not scum.

Why are you sheeping someone who is not confirmed town?

I mean, you are voting awaclus as well

[Roadrunner7671]

Uh oh, I might actually die. Let's think about this, okay?

I'm not scum.

Why are you sheeping someone who is not confirmed town?

Sheeping?

[Witherweaver]

I sheep Faust a lot when he's not confirmed. 

[2.71828.....]

Uh oh, I might actually die. Let's think about this, okay?

I'm not scum.

Why are you sheeping someone who is not confirmed town?

Sheeping?

Sheeping is just copying what another person does. In the same way that sheep will just follow blindly behind someone.

Basically, why are you voting awaclus? Simply because faust did? Because that is what your past looks like

[Awaclus]

I'm not scum.

Me neither.

[2.71828.....]

I sheep Faust a lot when he's not confirmed.

And yeah. This. Sheeping faust is not a terrible thing to do

[Roadrunner7671]

He is acting the same way he has before when he was confirmed town, and he's really good at Mafia. I also wanted to put Awaclus at L-1 to see if he would squirm.

[Witherweaver]

He is acting the same way he has before when he was confirmed town, and he's really good at Mafia. I also wanted to put Awaclus at L-1 to see if he would squirm.

This is suspicious, considering I've already given precedence for it.

[2.71828.....]

He is acting the same way he has before when he was confirmed town, and he's really good at Mafia. I also wanted to put Awaclus at L-1 to see if he would squirm.

This is suspicious, considering I've already given precedence for it.

Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.