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[chairs]

vote: WW.

[ashersky]

Vote: WW

[Witherweaver]

Hooray

[Awaclus]

Oh, I see.  So why Umbrage?

Because he wasn't posting much and I didn't remember that he was V/LA.

[yuma]

what makes the votes on hydrad and awaclus "easy mislynches?" didn't we stop using that phrase forever ago because it rarely applies...? and you are majorly dumbing down my points on awaclus

If you do not agree that Awaclus is easier to get lynched than say, you or ashersky, that's insane. You may not have played a lot of games with these guys, but they get lynched all the time, and mostly it's the lynch that town stares at and wonders "why did we do that?" afterwards.

doesn't town always stare at mislynches and wonder "why did we do that"?

if a town doesn't do that with any mislynch they are playing the game wrong. and weren't you the one that told me not to rely on information from other people that was unsubstantiated?

i think anyone is capable of being lynched any day. i think some people play townier and are thus less likely to be lynched (those people that are scum) get fleshed out on later days. but it sounds like right now you want me to ignore (what is to me) obvious scummy behavior just because they often have scummy behavior... i for one have been burned too many times by ignoring scummy behavior from say... mail-mi, arch, sudgy or others like that... and saw them survive to win games.

i lynch scummy behavior, not people who are acting townie but who are probably hiding their scummy behavior too well.... especially day1

[yuma]

Heck, I just want to lynch someone.

How about yuma?

[pingpongsam]

Heck, I just want to lynch someone.

How about yuma?

Sure!  But Awaclus has more votes.

There are still about 3 days left to the deadline.We are not in "vote people with a lot of votes" territory.

There haven't been many wagons at all except for the PPS ones.  Not sure if anyone else has gotten more than three votes. Feels odd.

PPS: Gkrieg is the one that claimed Mason.

Oh, yeah. I guess that gives a pass then. My statement was based on post content alone.

[yuma]

vote: pps

[Witherweaver]

Oh, I see.  So why Umbrage?

Because he wasn't posting much and I didn't remember that he was V/LA.

Strangely enough, this is the first thing Awaclus said that made me not want to lynch him.

I'm still lynch hungry, though.

[silverspawn]

Vote Count 1.8

Awaclus (2): UmbrageOfSnow, Witherweaver
Witherweaver (2): chairs, ashersky
pingpongsam (2): Twistedarcher, yuma
yuma (1): faust
Twistedarcher (1): Hydrad
UmbrageOfSnow (1): Awaclus
Hydrad (1): gkrieg13

Not Voting (2): Jimmmmm, pingpongsam

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends at Sep 21, 03 PM forum time Forum Time. That is in 2 days and 21+ hours.

[yuma]

Heck, I just want to lynch someone.

How about yuma?

Sure!  But Awaclus has more votes.

There are still about 3 days left to the deadline.We are not in "vote people with a lot of votes" territory.

I think we are. Two of those days are weekends, well three really since friday often feels like a pre-saturday or here,and I think speak for many of us that I am not sure I will be around much during thenweekend or necessarily at the deadline. I will try but no guarantees. So in reality of posting amount we have like 1.5 days. Not quite crunch time but close enough that people either need to vote for people with no or one vote or else move elsewhere. It doesn't look like people are going to vote for me, everyone has passed when presented with the opportunity so I think you should move your vote elsewhere. Same goes for those in isolation pushing cases or votes that no one else is going to join...

[yuma]

Vote: awaclus

[gkrieg13]

vote: WW

[Witherweaver]

vote: WW

You're messing up all kinds of stuff here.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I'll come read some more stuff later, but to expand on my Awaclus vote:

He's defending himself and explaining in a way that mirrors his self-claimed scum meta more than his town meta.  And he's claiming that he's not trying to change his meta as town.

Being a bit more helpful has been working out for him lately, and he got burned going hard-core unhelpful as scum in Pony Pony Mafia trying to imitate his town meta and overshooting it.

We can't just never lynch Awaclus because he's always scummy.  Yes, he is easier to get lynched than Yuma or Faust or Ash for that reason, but he's going to be scum sometimes.  And the way to catch scum!Awaclus is meta.  His response to Yuma I pointed out last night looks like the kind of explanation he gives of himself when he's scum.  And the way he responded to my comment about him wanting to change his meta may as well be a scum claim.  Plus it reminds me of how he reacts to meta pressure when he's worried about it.

[Awaclus]

He's defending himself and explaining in a way that mirrors his self-claimed scum meta more than his town meta.

I don't even have any scum reads to speak of, how could I possibly have explained anything in a way that mirrors my scum meta?

[Witherweaver]

He's defending himself and explaining in a way that mirrors his self-claimed scum meta more than his town meta.

I don't even have any scum reads to speak of, how could I possibly have explained anything in a way that mirrors my scum meta?

Scenario: your fabrication of scum reads in your last scum game was pretty transparent, so scum!you thinks it's better to claim no reads at all.

[Witherweaver]

It's just a modification of the "I have too many town reads" thing that scum likes to do to maintain some Day 1 presence.  I think Yuma was also projecting this kind of thing earlier.

[yuma]

It's just a modification of the "I have too many town reads" thing that scum likes to do to maintain some Day 1 presence.  I think Yuma was also projecting this kind of thing earlier.

except mine was really early in the day and was immediately followed up by a lot of probing and asking questions and participating in a way that allowed me to form reads on people that i have publicly posted and followed up with votes...

i don't think i am the best comparison here...

[Witherweaver]

It's just a modification of the "I have too many town reads" thing that scum likes to do to maintain some Day 1 presence.  I think Yuma was also projecting this kind of thing earlier.

except mine was really early in the day and was immediately followed up by a lot of probing and asking questions and participating in a way that allowed me to form reads on people that i have publicly posted and followed up with votes...

i don't think i am the best comparison here...

It was something I noticed at the time and remembered. 

[Awaclus]

Scenario: your fabrication of scum reads in your last scum game was pretty transparent, so scum!you thinks it's better to claim no reads at all.

I got an MVP for my last scum game though.

[Twistedarcher]

Hey I'm out of town this weekend. Still want pps but i will check in sunday night and see what's up.

[Witherweaver]

Scenario: your fabrication of scum reads in your last scum game was pretty transparent, so scum!you thinks it's better to claim no reads at all.

I got an MVP for my last scum game though.

I'm referring to Pony Mafia.  That's the last one I remember. 

[Awaclus]

I'm referring to Pony Mafia.  That's the last one I remember.

I'm referring to Buffy/Angel Mafia. I don't remember which one of them started later, but Buffy ended later (especially my life in that game ended a lot later than it did in Pony Mafia).

[Witherweaver]

Buffy may have been more recent; I hadn't thought of it.  Though there you were third party, not Mafia.