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[gkrieg13]

Also is Hockey usually this sheepy?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Mm. I am willing to hammer TA.

I'd like a bit more discussion though. It's possible he made the mistake as town...he's not saying he purposefully lied about it for some reason. But he did say he basically has no explanation for it? He was tired and posting on mobile...I feel like he isn't fighting his lynch that hard.

Daah. But would scum really be so nonchalant and just "I messed up and really have no reason why"...

[hockeysemlan]

I think I want to

vote: TA

A lie is a lie.

But gosh. It is a tough decision today.

Why switch from Hydrad?  It is clear that he is also lying.  His role would have no benefit

I don't read Hydrad as that scummy after he got pushed. TA is harder to read, and that alarms me. But both are good candidates still..

PPE: I don't have a usually yet.

[gkrieg13]

I think I want to

vote: TA

A lie is a lie.

But gosh. It is a tough decision today.

Why switch from Hydrad?  It is clear that he is also lying.  His role would have no benefit

I don't read Hydrad as that scummy after he got pushed. TA is harder to read, and that alarms me. But both are good candidates still..

PPE: I don't have a usually yet.

which games have you been in?

[hockeysemlan]

I think I want to

vote: TA

A lie is a lie.

But gosh. It is a tough decision today.

Why switch from Hydrad?  It is clear that he is also lying.  His role would have no benefit

I don't read Hydrad as that scummy after he got pushed. TA is harder to read, and that alarms me. But both are good candidates still..

PPE: I don't have a usually yet.

which games have you been in?

Hearthstone and Buffy. But ugh, Buffy was just weird. I wasn't playing as much as trying to avoid going insane.

[Witherweaver]

Mm. I am willing to hammer TA.

I'd like a bit more discussion though. It's possible he made the mistake as town...he's not saying he purposefully lied about it for some reason. But he did say he basically has no explanation for it? He was tired and posting on mobile...I feel like he isn't fighting his lynch that hard.

Daah. But would scum really be so nonchalant and just "I messed up and really have no reason why"...

I kind of would have expected more indignance, as either alignment really.

[gkrieg13]

Mm. I am willing to hammer TA.

I'd like a bit more discussion though. It's possible he made the mistake as town...he's not saying he purposefully lied about it for some reason. But he did say he basically has no explanation for it? He was tired and posting on mobile...I feel like he isn't fighting his lynch that hard.

Daah. But would scum really be so nonchalant and just "I messed up and really have no reason why"...

Agreed, I think we need more time to discuss.  Hockey seems like he is just trying to get a lynch through.  And that concerns me.

PPE: I'll check those real quick

[Twistedarcher]

So if TA is telling the truth, do you guys think it will be hard to kill ruin without TA?  Also TA, what is your wincon?

I'm town

[Witherweaver]

Unvote

We shouldn't hammer yet, there are issues.

First, I don't think TA made this up.  So either he's town and we have another faction or he's with EFHW/e and we have another faction. 

PPEs

[gkrieg13]

So if TA is telling the truth, do you guys think it will be hard to kill ruin without TA?  Also TA, what is your wincon?

I'm town

So you don't win if you find ruin and destroy him?

[gkrieg13]

I think I want to

vote: TA

A lie is a lie.

But gosh. It is a tough decision today.

Why switch from Hydrad?  It is clear that he is also lying.  His role would have no benefit

I don't read Hydrad as that scummy after he got pushed. TA is harder to read, and that alarms me. But both are good candidates still..

PPE: I don't have a usually yet.

I did a glance at Hearthstone.  First games are hard because they aren't nearly as indicative.  You have a very different feel here than you did there though.  Doesn't really fit, seeing as you "have" the same role here as you did there.

[Witherweaver]

Seprix, does your role burn metal?

[gkrieg13]

Actually looking back at the days and Hockey is just trying to push wagons every day.  He seems the least towny of the VTs to me.  He might be the 3rd party, he also says he isn't whiteknighting EFHW, but just says that she is his top town read.  This sounds scummy to me. 

vote: hockeysemlan

PPE:  I believe he already said it doesn't

[mail-mi]

Actually looking back at the days and Hockey is just trying to push wagons every day.  He seems the least towny of the VTs to me.  He might be the 3rd party, he also says he isn't whiteknighting EFHW, but just says that she is his top town read.  This sounds scummy to me. 

vote: hockeysemlan

PPE:  I believe he already said it doesn't

Willing to sheep vote: hockey

[gkrieg13]

Although WW voted for EFHW on day 2, never explained it, and then asked me questions trying to take focus off of EFHW.
It might be weak, but I'm trying to find something. 

Hydrad could be the double voter!  We need a vote count to confirm though.  If he is, TA is lynched.

PPE: anything else from you mail-mi?

[Seprix]

Seprix, does your role burn metal?

My role does not. However, why believe what I have to say?

[gkrieg13]

Seprix, does your role burn metal?

My role does not. However, why believe what I have to say?

?

[Witherweaver]

Although WW voted for EFHW on day 2, never explained it, and then asked me questions trying to take focus off of EFHW.
It might be weak, but I'm trying to find something. 

Hydrad could be the double voter!  We need a vote count to confirm though.  If he is, TA is lynched.

PPE: anything else from you mail-mi?

I voted EFHW because I thought she was scummy from Day 1.  I don't think anyone else agreed with me, though. I was going to type up a case, but I wasn't around much then and I didn't get to it.   

I'm going to do a reread of TA when I can.  From memory he was tunneling e; I don't remember what his stance on EFHW was.

[Seprix]

Daah. But would scum really be so nonchalant and just "I messed up and really have no reason why"...

That's literally what I did my first scum game, and everyone jumped off of me so quickly. We almost won that game actually, only because Town realized they got careless with votes right before I logged on to hammer. :/ So I think lynching TA is something we should do, but I'm all for more discussion before the deadline. We have to make sure we're doing the right thing.

[Seprix]

Seprix, does your role burn metal?

My role does not. However, why believe what I have to say?

?

I could be lying like anyone else is what I'm saying. But I guess that's already implied with most statements this game.

[mail-mi]

Although WW voted for EFHW on day 2, never explained it, and then asked me questions trying to take focus off of EFHW.
It might be weak, but I'm trying to find something. 

Hydrad could be the double voter!  We need a vote count to confirm though.  If he is, TA is lynched.

PPE: anything else from you mail-mi?

Not really, unfortunately.

[gkrieg13]

Daah. But would scum really be so nonchalant and just "I messed up and really have no reason why"...

That's literally what I did my first scum game, and everyone jumped off of me so quickly. We almost won that game actually, only because Town realized they got careless with votes right before I logged on to hammer. :/ So I think lynching TA is something we should do, but I'm all for more discussion before the deadline. We have to make sure we're doing the right thing.

I agree.  I am fine with the TA lynch.  3 scum with 7 VTs and a few power roles could be right for the setup.  Hydrad's role still makes 0 sense to me.

[gkrieg13]

Although WW voted for EFHW on day 2, never explained it, and then asked me questions trying to take focus off of EFHW.
It might be weak, but I'm trying to find something. 

Hydrad could be the double voter!  We need a vote count to confirm though.  If he is, TA is lynched.

PPE: anything else from you mail-mi?

Not really, unfortunately.

so just sheeping?

[Witherweaver]

I don't think TA makes this up; at least not the part about Ruin.  It's a little too... creative for a fake claim.  Also, what would be the point?

[Witherweaver]

And, just flavorwise it fits very well.