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[silverspawn]

I am new so I'm sorry if that is causing some problems.  I've only read through 2 other games of RMM forum mafia and it seemed like the first days were more eventful than this one has been so far.  More discussion about what people's roles were and stuff like that.

don't worry... it's fine. if you're town. it's not fine if you're scum 

[Ghacob]

 

Okay, e's off my lynch list. Faust is still on. Lurkers need to start talking (finally that doesn't include me

vote: gkrieg13

Remember, we talked about this in the scum qt?

I don't think that actually says anything about either alignment, but it is a notable post if either of them do flip scum

Since obviously you play BM games and normal games the same, this means that the scumteam is you/XP/??? ?? ??
Obviously.

I am new so I'm sorry if that is causing some problems.  I've only read through 2 other games of RMM forum mafia and it seemed like the first days were more eventful than this one has been so far.  More discussion about what people's roles were and stuff like that.

don't worry... it's fine. if you're town. it's not fine if you're scum 

I think it's fine if he's scum too, that way we win more easily 


As for serious things...

hockey, even if you've changed your view since, what had made you think grinkle was obvtown?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Hmm. Interesting that people singled me out as the "lowest activity" or only lurker or whatever--when I'm actually about the middle of the curve for posts.
I don't think it's necessarily scummy because people could just be comparing it to my regular level of activity. It is interesting though.

[Hydrad]

hmmm I don't think i'm going to vote gkrieg today.

Right now this just seems like a new person asking questions. I guess he could have been coached by scum but it feels decently genuine.

[mail-mi]

I see. That wasn't meant to say that I was PR. But I'm also not VT. Or maybe I don't know what PR means because I don't have any actions day or night.

 vote: gkrieg

I'm with the wagoners here/

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.5:

EFHW (1):  Hydrad
XP (3):  2.7, Witherweaver, Seprix
chairs (2):  hockeysemIan, EgorK
Seprix (4):  EFHW, chairs, gkrieg13, Ghacob
gkrieg13 (2):  XP, mail-mi
faust (1):  UoS
hockeysemIan (1):  silverspawn
2.7 (1):  faust

Not Voting (2): Ichimaru Gin, TwistedArcher

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on July 9 at 1:00 a.m. forum time.

[chairs]

vote: gkrieg13. I'm not giving out newbie passes, and this feels like someone playing up the newbie pass angle.

[XerxesPraelor]

Okay, e's off my lynch list. Faust is still on. Lurkers need to start talking (finally that doesn't include me

vote: gkrieg13

Remember, we talked about this in the scum qt?

I don't think that actually says anything about either alignment, but it is a notable post if either of them do flip scum

The point being, why target gkrieg as a lurker?  Because there were like 6 other people who were lower posters than him at the time.  This could either be telling his partners (not gkrieg) to post more, it could just be LALL, or it might even be that they are partners.

Again, nothing concrete, but for D1....?  I like XP

He had like one post which was "oh, is'nt XP suspicious". And I decided to go with him because in a game this large you have to stick with someone, and he looked the closest to being scummy of the lurkers.

[Seprix]

Again, after much deliberation about staying with my XP vote, I think it's much more important to lynch Gkreig than XP now I think, based off of overall scumminess. I can be persuaded otherwise however.

vote: gkraig13

[Ichimaru Gin]

I see. That wasn't meant to say that I was PR. But I'm also not VT. Or maybe I don't know what PR means because I don't have any actions day or night.

gkrieg may very well be scum.
However, I took this statement to mean he has no active abilities. This could mean he is bulletproof or something.
Is there something I'm missing about why everyone wants to lynch him now?

[EFHW]

vote: XP.  1.  gkrieg is not a lurker, but that's why he is voting him  2.  the people going along with him are two of the sheepiest and Seprix, who I'm on the fence about, and who came off the XP wagon to vote with XP.  3. Wagon-shopping.  He's been jumping around his vote, despite saying you should stick with one person.  4. Bringing up roles.  I think role-fishing does happen.

[XerxesPraelor]

I'm not voting him for lurking.

[Seprix]

vote: XP.  1.  gkrieg is not a lurker, but that's why he is voting him  2.  the people going along with him are two of the sheepiest and Seprix, who I'm on the fence about, and who came off the XP wagon to vote with XP.  3. Wagon-shopping.  He's been jumping around his vote, despite saying you should stick with one person.  4. Bringing up roles.  I think role-fishing does happen.

XP and Gkrieg are both bad.

[XerxesPraelor]

You think I would bus my partner???

Actually I probably wouldn't as scum, I've done it so much it would be boring.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.6:

EFHW (1):  Hydrad
XP (3):  2.7, Witherweaver, EFHW
chairs (2):  hockeysemIan, EgorK
Seprix (2):  gkrieg13, Ghacob
gkrieg13 (4):  XP, mail-mi, chairs, Seprix
faust (1):  UoS
hockeysemIan (1):  silverspawn
2.7 (1):  faust

Not Voting (2): Ichimaru Gin, TwistedArcher

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on July 9 at 1:00 a.m. forum time.

[hockeysemlan]

actually, I'm going to vote: hockey instead for calling grkiegrki obv town.

Meh. I only refered to his D1-pass. All new players are obv!town the first day. gkrieg just manage to act very scummy despite of that, but frankly I think he do it by mistake more than anything else. 

You're wasting your vote silver.

[hockeysemlan]

Uh.. I realize quite a few people wondered about that. I used the wrong term more or less, I just thought he acted very newbie-like, not scummy, uptil the post of not being VT. I know that everyone tried to scumpaint me for my actions in my first game. It's hard to come out townie in your first game, and I guess that's one reason why we shouldn't lynch newbs the first day. They need more time to get a hunch on how the game works before it's possible to get a proper read on them.

Won't vote him today, but go ahead, he is scummy..

[XerxesPraelor]

actually, I'm going to vote: hockey instead for calling grkiegrki obv town.

Meh. I only refered to his D1-pass. All new players are obv!town the first day. gkrieg just manage to act very scummy despite of that, but frankly I think he do it by mistake more than anything else. 

Yeah, scum mistakes.

[gkrieg13]

So why is what I did any different than what chairs did?  Why did people on his wagon get on my wagon?

[Witherweaver]

I'm going with not scum on gkrieg.

Chairs on the wagon is scummy; he seems to be going on popular wagons that are alternative to him. 

[Ghacob]

Although I currently find gkreig scummy, I'm going to give him the good ol' D1 pass

I find it quite suspicious that some of my top D1 scum reads are so willing to lynch the newbie

[Witherweaver]

Although I currently find gkreig scummy, I'm going to give him the good ol' D1 pass

I find it quite suspicious that some of my top D1 scum reads are so willing to lynch the newbie

I never like this.  Is gkreig a top scum read or not?  If he is, lynch him.  Lynch the scummiest person.  D1 passes are fake things. 

Why is willingness to lynch a newbie suspicious?  New players are not as big of a lynch as experienced players, and presumably not as good at catching scum, so a town newbie is less of a threat than an experienced town.  Plus, scum avoids easy lynches precisely because people find them suspicious.  Defending him is actually more suspicious.  Except you think he's scummy, so I don't really understand what you're saying.

[Twistedarcher]

Although I currently find gkreig scummy, I'm going to give him the good ol' D1 pass

I find it quite suspicious that some of my top D1 scum reads are so willing to lynch the newbie

What? you're arbitrarily giving scum reads to people for things that aren't scummy.

[Twistedarcher]

vote: XP.  1.  gkrieg is not a lurker, but that's why he is voting him  2.  the people going along with him are two of the sheepiest and Seprix, who I'm on the fence about, and who came off the XP wagon to vote with XP.  3. Wagon-shopping.  He's been jumping around his vote, despite saying you should stick with one person.  4. Bringing up roles.  I think role-fishing does happen.

ditto for point #2 here. scumpoints for non scummy things.

[faust]

More people should vote for e instead of driving wagons on newbies and the usual suspects.