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[Seprix]

vote: Seprix

Now is when scum jumps on the wagon.

lol, I was evaluating you vs Chairs, and while the Chairs wagon had merit, you're a far better lynch. If you think I'm wagoning you because I'm scum, you're sorely mistaken.

[EFHW]

vote count please!

[EFHW]

We need to remember to distinguish scummy vs. anti-town play.

Seprix has posted a lot since I voted him - I'll reread him today or tomorrow.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Happy Evil Empire Day!

I've got a couple hours of internet here today.

[Seprix]

Happy Evil Empire Day!

I've got a couple hours of internet here today.

In the words of WanderingWinder, "Why do you hate America?"

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Regarding passes, here's my willing to lynch list today:

1. mail-mi Always Lurky Pass
2. Ichimaru Gin Emotional Pass
4. EgorK Sympathy Pass
5. 2.7 Likes giving passes pass
7. Hydrad Always Scummy Pass
9. Chairs Townsilp Pass
11. hockeysemian New Player Pass
12. Seprix Always Scummy Pass
13. TwistedArcher Sympathy Pass
14. XerxesPraelor Early Wagon Pass
15. gkrieg13 Against Tradition
16. EFHW Pass for giving me an award
17. UmbrageOfSnow Pass for being myself.

What are the odds I've got more scum having a pass than not having one?  Pretty damn high.

And scum can pick and choose what sort of nonsense they most want to press giving passes for to reduce the odds of lynching scum day 1.

Passes are silly, let's lynch scum instead.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Happy Evil Empire Day!

I've got a couple hours of internet here today.

In the words of WanderingWinder, "Why do you hate America?"

Because I'm paying attention.

[Seprix]

Happy Evil Empire Day!

I've got a couple hours of internet here today.

In the words of WanderingWinder, "Why do you hate America?"

Because I'm paying attention.

Man, you can not like the actions of a country and still be proud for what it stands for. Besides, America isn't that bad. Do you really think every other country would be any better if they were in our shoes? No, they wouldn't. That's human nature.

[Seprix]

But yeh, back to game. D:

[faust]

Happy Evil Empire Day!

I've got a couple hours of internet here today.

In the words of WanderingWinder, "Why do you hate America?"

Because I'm paying attention.

Man, you can not like the actions of a country and still be proud for what it stands for. Besides, America isn't that bad. Do you really think every other country would be any better if they were in our shoes? No, they wouldn't. That's human nature.

Dude, take it outside.

[faust]

I think Xerxes is townier now. e has left a scummy impression on me though.

[Ghacob]

Regarding passes, here's my willing to lynch list today:

1. mail-mi Always Lurky Pass
2. Ichimaru Gin Emotional Pass
4. EgorK Sympathy Pass
5. 2.7 Likes giving passes pass
7. Hydrad Always Scummy Pass
9. Chairs Townsilp Pass
11. hockeysemian New Player Pass
12. Seprix Always Scummy Pass
13. TwistedArcher Sympathy Pass
14. XerxesPraelor Early Wagon Pass
15. gkrieg13 Against Tradition
16. EFHW Pass for giving me an award
17. UmbrageOfSnow Pass for being myself.

What are the odds I've got more scum having a pass than not having one?  Pretty damn high.

And scum can pick and choose what sort of nonsense they most want to press giving passes for to reduce the odds of lynching scum day 1.

Passes are silly, let's lynch scum instead.

Since I had to take a second to understand meaning, let me translate this to your apparent lynch pool:

3. Witherweaver
6. silverspawn
8. Faust
10. Ghacob

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Faust's pointing out of the VT PM accomplished more sorting-the-VTs-from-the-PRs interactions than anything the rest of this stupid breadcrumbing/claiming VT/claiming PR nonsense did.

Vote: Faust

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Faust's pointing out of the VT PM accomplished more sorting-the-VTs-from-the-PRs interactions than anything the rest of this stupid breadcrumbing/claiming VT/claiming PR nonsense did.

Vote: Faust

That, and the way he used it to effectively make people take stances on whether or not we found chairs scummy for his phrasing.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Since I had to take a second to understand meaning, let me translate this to your apparent lynch pool:

3. Witherweaver
6. silverspawn
8. Faust
10. Ghacob

That's just the pool of people I couldn't think of bullshit reasons to give passes to.

[Ghacob]

...Upon further reading I have realized that your post was not serious.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

...Upon further reading I have realized that your post was not serious.

This gets you a pass for today!

[Seprix]

I'm only too scummy to be scum because I don't know any better. I'm not honestly trying to do that. It's funny and sad at the same time.

[faust]

Faust's pointing out of the VT PM accomplished more sorting-the-VTs-from-the-PRs interactions than anything the rest of this stupid breadcrumbing/claiming VT/claiming PR nonsense did.

Vote: Faust

Eh. I tried to figure out chairs' alignment. I found something supicious and posted it. What do you propose I should have done?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Faust's pointing out of the VT PM accomplished more sorting-the-VTs-from-the-PRs interactions than anything the rest of this stupid breadcrumbing/claiming VT/claiming PR nonsense did.

Vote: Faust

Eh. I tried to figure out chairs' alignment. I found something supicious and posted it. What do you propose I should have done?

If you had asked about the wording of the PR PMs you'd have came to the same result while generating fewer reactions from town.  Maybe you didn't think it through enough, this isn't some super case.  But it definitely achieves more for scum than town.  As town you only had to out yourself since we already had claimed PRs.

[faust]

Faust's pointing out of the VT PM accomplished more sorting-the-VTs-from-the-PRs interactions than anything the rest of this stupid breadcrumbing/claiming VT/claiming PR nonsense did.

Vote: Faust

Eh. I tried to figure out chairs' alignment. I found something supicious and posted it. What do you propose I should have done?

If you had asked about the wording of the PR PMs you'd have came to the same result while generating fewer reactions from town.  Maybe you didn't think it through enough, this isn't some super case.  But it definitely achieves more for scum than town.  As town you only had to out yourself since we already had claimed PRs.

I'm not sure I follow, and I get the feeling that answering this question would lead to me having a "sorting-the-VTs-from-the-PRs" reaction, which I believe you argued against just a second ago.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

We had a page 1 PR claim.  You could have explicitly asked him how the PR PM was phrased regarding "Survivor-aligned".  You'd still have outed yourself as not-PR, which you were doing anyway.  But you'd have avoided getting any reactions from anyone else.

Town would want to avoid getting role-indicative reactions from town.  Scum would want to get them.

You did something very pro-scum here.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

And asking would also have helped pressure the earlier claims.

I think this move was scummier than any of the other stuff so far this game.  Because it's a clever move from scum, or a mistake from town that potentially hurts town a lot, and where asking questions instead of trying to get votes on the wagon would have accomplished significantly more scumhunting.  I think it speaks to scumhunting not being your priority.

[faust]

We had a page 1 PR claim.  You could have explicitly asked him how the PR PM was phrased regarding "Survivor-aligned".  You'd still have outed yourself as not-PR, which you were doing anyway.  But you'd have avoided getting any reactions from anyone else.

Town would want to avoid getting role-indicative reactions from town.  Scum would want to get them.

You did something very pro-scum here.

I think answering such a question would violate game rules and potentially result in the player answering this being modkilled. Doesn't sound very pro-town to me.

[silverspawn]

I think what faust were doing there was both pro-town and a faust thing to do. I'd give him a very mild town read for it