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[Seprix]

The standard VT letter by Ashersky does in fact use the phrase Survivor. This is where I'm puzzled. Faust doesn't know what the original Town Mail looks like at all.

[Twistedarcher]

townpoints to faust, i think i understand the reasoning of him concluding that chairs is scum.

[hockeysemlan]

The standard VT letter by Ashersky does in fact use the phrase Survivor. This is where I'm puzzled. Faust doesn't know what the original Town Mail looks like at all.

Yeah, but not survivor-ALIGNED and that was what chairs was using. We don't know how the PR-message looks like. If chairs is Town he's PR and he's too good too out that this early by mistake.

PPE:1

[Seprix]

The standard VT letter by Ashersky does in fact use the phrase Survivor. This is where I'm puzzled. Faust doesn't know what the original Town Mail looks like at all.

Yeah, but not survivor-ALIGNED and that was what chairs was using. We don't know how the PR-message looks like. If chairs is Town he's PR and he's too good too out that this early by mistake.

PPE:1

Yeah, if that's what Faust is arguing.

vote: chairs

Something I'm realizing is that I'm not getting anything anyone is saying. Every time I see something, it's out of context or flat out wrong, whether I'm scum or not. This is unacceptable.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Nah. I actually feel a bit like that about this game as well Seprix. People are saying stuff, but I'm having a hard time seeing exactly what they mean. Maybe it's just cause it's the morning for me.

[chairs]

The XP breadcrumb thing is practically useless for anyone now (which I guess is sorta the point of posting it), but I am reminded of BM20 which, while bastard, also started with scum!XP making a similarly ominous comment that was his partner
...wow I spent time looking for something that apparently doesn't exist. Whoops.
slight scum points from me regardless

and also slight scum points to Seprix and TA for... "taking this too seriously" isn't quite the right phrase but...
TA, responding with

Hi. Disagree with fausts' PoE but whatever, I see him diverting from it if he has a scum read so it's not worth arguing over.

to an RVS "Process of elimination"?

Seprix, you're making far too big a deal out of the "slip" or whatever it is. I had to take a second to figure out what exactly my alignment was too, I'm sorry I didn't peruse the setup as soon as I received my PM

vote: Seprix

PPE: 3

And now to try to find some people I think are town

Sorry, i refuse to go along with eliminating 2/3 of the lynch pool before the game starts. it's silly.

null on chairs, townslip seems overblown to me, it reads like not paying attention chairs (which is true a lot -- no offense chairs)  i guess this is usually town clueless chairs though.

not a lot else sticks out having read the thread.

happy to play with you too, efhw!

Yeah, it's unfortunately a case of me not reading the setup as carefully as I ought've.

As we've already established, I have a PR.

[EgorK]

I am not persuaded yet

[faust]

Well, I'm keeping my vote. chairs, you can take that as a compliment, as it means I don't think you would play this badly as town.

[chairs]

Well, I'm keeping my vote. chairs, you can take that as a compliment, as it means I don't think you would play this badly as town.

I wish you were right!

[2.71828.....]

I feel like any of the non-vanilla roles could say something like "you are the survivor-aligned ____". 

Tentatively because I have something in my PM phrased the same way and chairs may too. It could be in the Mafia pm though.

I have to agree with XP but I don't think that chairs is mafia.

Then he outed himself as PR. Bad move. He might not be mafia, but could very well be scum of some sort..

Can we stop taking about who is a PR and who is scum? I mean, this is a PR "slip" from XP, a VT "slip" from gkrieg, and well, hockey is just commenting.

[2.71828.....]

As mentioned previously, slips are easily enough constructed. We just don't need any more "slips"

[faust]

Can we stop taking about [...] who is scum?

Good idea, man

[2.71828.....]

Actually, I like vote: xp

Mentioning his pm as a defense of chairs then voting him? I could totally see 1 scum/1 town here and I think xp is more likely the scum

[2.71828.....]

Can we stop taking about [...] who is scum?

Good idea, man

[Joke]The meaning is not in the words, but the intent behind them. Go go textual relativity. [/joke]


.....just try and interpret that last sentence. I dare you

[gkrieg13]

Actually, I like vote: xp

Mentioning his pm as a defense of chairs then voting him? I could totally see 1 scum/1 town here and I think xp is more likely the scum

Now that I look at it, that does seem weird... 

[EFHW]

I love doing half-claims that are useful, and, now that I remember, I actually did something pretty similar in a game with Faust, where it made us both into ICs. I find it suspicious he didn't remember that.

vote: Faust

I don't see how you get from faust not seeing something like you did and his being scummy. 

[EgorK]

I'll probably be unavailable most of weekend.

e raises interesting point about XP here, need to think it through

[Witherweaver]

TA, why is it okay for Faust to baseless PoE but not Ghacob?

I thought he was listing his town reads and crossing off people he didnt have a townread on. so backwards poe

Who, Ghacob or Faust?  And which one were you opposing?  Faust's PoE came when no one had any content.

[Witherweaver]

Checking in:

Ghacob, why am I eliminated by PoE as town when I have literally said nothing about this game?  (Literal use of "literal", by the way.)

TA, why is it okay for Faust to baseless PoE but not Ghacob?

TA said nothing about mine and instead was still going on against faust for his firstpost RVSish thing

The PoE was more to help organize my own thoughts rather than to specifically make a point I guess?
That is to say getting crossed off is effectively a null, those not crossed off were those I found towny based on actions in game so far. No actions, null read

I'm really going on TA, as I believe people are more likely to take things seriously(literally?) and try hard when they're scum, which is mirrored by the better scum I've played against (ashersky, e)

PPE: 2 and then also the chairs fiasco gives more things to consider...

Ohhhhh  I get it now.  Usually people cross off who they don't want to lynch. 

[Witherweaver]

Vote: XP for voting for Faust.

[Witherweaver]

Town on e, town on Faust, null on Chairs, null everywhere else.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.3:

EFHW (1):  Hydrad
XP (3): UmbrageOfSnow, 2.7, Witherweaver
chairs (5):  faust, hockeysemIan, EgorK, XP, Seprix
Seprix (5):  EFHW, silverspawn, chairs, gkrieg13, Ghacob

Not Voting (3): Ichimaru Gin, TwistedArcher, mail-mi

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on July 9 at 1:00 a.m. forum time.

[XerxesPraelor]

One nice thing about large towns is you can have multiple wagons are going at the same time.

[Seprix]

One nice thing about large towns is you can have multiple wagons are going at the same time.

I do agree. Any explanation for what e is claiming?

[2.71828.....]

One nice thing about large towns is you can have multiple wagons are going at the same time.

I do agree. Any explanation for what e is claiming?

I am not claiming anything. I am making inferences based on available evidence. And those inferences lead me to think xp is scum.

What makes you think that chairs' slip is scummier than xp's?