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[A Drowned Kernel]

Can't get to my pc for at least ~5 more hours but this i realized something extremely important:
The Day1 Start text says Chrysalis is in the game.
Chrysalis is the antagonist of the season 2 finale and feeds on the love of others to gain power. -> If Ichi is Chrysalis and we enourage him we're doomed.

I missed that. If that's the case, Discord being a third party makes more sense.

But I dislike making arguments based on flavor, since that's basically trying to read the mod's mind. And I'm actually inclined to ubvote for now.

[faust]

Another important thing:
My PR doesn't make sense if there is a third party besides Harmony and Chaos -> faust being a third party doesn't make sense.

Huh, can you expand? I mean, it's not like I can win on my own. Whatever happens, this game will still end with either Harmony or Chaos winning (or everyone dies, I guess). Does that migitate your confusion?

I think pit is town here.

[faust]

If you go me and pit for the first two lynches, I don't think that is a good way to start the game.

[xxpittip]

Another important thing:
My PR doesn't make sense if there is a third party besides Harmony and Chaos -> faust being a third party doesn't make sense.

Huh, can you expand? I mean, it's not like I can win on my own. Whatever happens, this game will still end with either Harmony or Chaos winning (or everyone dies, I guess). Does that migitate your confusion?

I think pit is town here.

Nope. My PR has different effects depending on whether i hammer harmony or chaos and the exact wording (can't quote because rules...) implies that there is no other option.

[faust]

Another important thing:
My PR doesn't make sense if there is a third party besides Harmony and Chaos -> faust being a third party doesn't make sense.

Huh, can you expand? I mean, it's not like I can win on my own. Whatever happens, this game will still end with either Harmony or Chaos winning (or everyone dies, I guess). Does that migitate your confusion?

I think pit is town here.

Nope. My PR has different effects depending on whether i hammer harmony or chaos and the exact wording (can't quote because rules...) implies that there is no other option.

Well, you're either lying, misinterpreting your PM, or there has been a mod mistake.

silver: Can you confirm that no mod mistake has been made?

[Seprix]

Another important thing:
My PR doesn't make sense if there is a third party besides Harmony and Chaos -> faust being a third party doesn't make sense.

Huh, can you expand? I mean, it's not like I can win on my own. Whatever happens, this game will still end with either Harmony or Chaos winning (or everyone dies, I guess). Does that migitate your confusion?

I think pit is town here.

Nope. My PR has different effects depending on whether i hammer harmony or chaos and the exact wording (can't quote because rules...) implies that there is no other option.

If Ironmonger reveals curse, nothing happens. Ironmonger does not refer to Curses, so obviously they must not exist.

unvote

Thought I was on to something there.

[chairs]

Another important thing:
My PR doesn't make sense if there is a third party besides Harmony and Chaos -> faust being a third party doesn't make sense.

Huh, can you expand? I mean, it's not like I can win on my own. Whatever happens, this game will still end with either Harmony or Chaos winning (or everyone dies, I guess). Does that migitate your confusion?

I think pit is town here.

Nope. My PR has different effects depending on whether i hammer harmony or chaos and the exact wording (can't quote because rules...) implies that there is no other option.

If Ironmonger reveals curse, nothing happens. Ironmonger does not refer to Curses, so obviously they must not exist.

unvote

Thought I was on to something there.

If Ironmonger reveals Curse then Chewbacca is a Wookie and you must acquit!

[silverspawn]

silver: Can you confirm that no mod mistake has been made?

no player has been given any false information.

[Seprix]

If Ironmonger reveals Curse then Chewbacca is a Wookie and you must acquit!

I was making a clever Dominion based analogy. I guess I can't drink 17 cups of coffee. Oh well.

Basically, what I was trying to say is that even though it it mentions two different groups, does not mean that there cannot be a third party.

[xxpittip]

Ok, if there is just missing information in my PM, that could mean that "no false information" and fausts claim are true...
In that case I really want to hammer faust just to see what happens...

[Seprix]

Ok, if there is just missing information in my PM, that could mean that "no false information" and fausts claim are true...
In that case I really want to hammer faust just to see what happens...

Well, that doesn't look good.

[faust]

Ok, if there is just missing information in my PM, that could mean that "no false information" and fausts claim are true...
In that case I really want to hammer faust just to see what happens...

It would be easier to just ask silver what happens when you hammer a non-Harmony and non-Chaos-aligned player.

[Joseph2302]

Ok, if there is just missing information in my PM, that could mean that "no false information" and fausts claim are true...
In that case I really want to hammer faust just to see what happens...

It would be easier to just ask silver what happens when you hammer a non-Harmony and non-Chaos-aligned player.

I'm guessing nothing. Assuming pit is town, the role is probably something like "A good thing happens if you hammer scum, A bad thing happens if you hammer town", and nothing if you hammer neither. And obviously reverse the good bad if pit is scum.

[Joseph2302]

I assume silverspawn deliberately omitted the third faction (assuming it exists)  from pit's PM , since adding it would give away it's a 3-faction game.

[EFHW]

I'm inclined to believe faust.  Starting Day 1 as scum with a 3rd party fake-claim just seems too out-there.  You risk losing the game for your partners.

faust having objectives to meet could mean that scum do too, so we should be cautious about encouraging etc.

@faust - why would town want to help you achieve your objectives?

[EFHW]

.... I'm actually inclined to ubvote for now.

I'm not sure that counts.

[EFHW]

Can't get to my pc for at least ~5 more hours but this i realized something extremely important:
The Day1 Start text says Chrysalis is in the game.
Chrysalis is the antagonist of the season 2 finale and feeds on the love of others to gain power. -> If Ichi is Chrysalis and we enourage him we're doomed.

He says he's Rarity.  Does that make sense encouragement-wise?

[xxpittip]

Ok, if there is just missing information in my PM, that could mean that "no false information" and fausts claim are true...
In that case I really want to hammer faust just to see what happens...

It would be easier to just ask silver what happens when you hammer a non-Harmony and non-Chaos-aligned player.

I'm guessing nothing. Assuming pit is town, the role is probably something like "A good thing happens if you hammer scum, A bad thing happens if you hammer town", and nothing if you hammer neither. And obviously reverse the good bad if pit is scum.

That's actually wrong. Something bad happens if i hammer scum (considering that it means that i hammered scum it's still good for us) and something good happens if i hammer town (that's why i wanted to hammer on day1 -> day1 has the highest chance to hit town with the hammer, but i'm no longer sure about that)

Ok, if there is just missing information in my PM, that could mean that "no false information" and fausts claim are true...
In that case I really want to hammer faust just to see what happens...

It would be easier to just ask silver what happens when you hammer a non-Harmony and non-Chaos-aligned player.

I asked him in my QT, i'll let you know if he answers.

[EFHW]

The objectives version of 3rd party is a nice twist.

faust could still be a modified SK.  Objectives would make it less impossible.

[EFHW]

Ok, if there is just missing information in my PM, that could mean that "no false information" and fausts claim are true...
In that case I really want to hammer faust just to see what happens...

It would be easier to just ask silver what happens when you hammer a non-Harmony and non-Chaos-aligned player.

I'm guessing nothing. Assuming pit is town, the role is probably something like "A good thing happens if you hammer scum, A bad thing happens if you hammer town", and nothing if you hammer neither. And obviously reverse the good bad if pit is scum.

That's actually wrong. Something bad happens if i hammer scum (considering that it means that i hammered scum it's still good for us) and something good happens if i hammer town (that's why i wanted to hammer on day1 -> day1 has the highest chance to hit town with the hammer, but i'm no longer sure about that)

So your power is actually negative-utility for town, though only slightly.

[xxpittip]

Can't get to my pc for at least ~5 more hours but this i realized something extremely important:
The Day1 Start text says Chrysalis is in the game.
Chrysalis is the antagonist of the season 2 finale and feeds on the love of others to gain power. -> If Ichi is Chrysalis and we enourage him we're doomed.

He says he's Rarity.  Does that make sense encouragement-wise?

I can't remember an episode that would make Rarity someone who needs encouragement more than other ponies, (It'd be nice if someone could confirm / deny this, since i'm not 100% sure), but could imagine silver being influenced by fanfictions etc.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Unvote

[xxpittip]

Ok, if there is just missing information in my PM, that could mean that "no false information" and fausts claim are true...
In that case I really want to hammer faust just to see what happens...

It would be easier to just ask silver what happens when you hammer a non-Harmony and non-Chaos-aligned player.

I'm guessing nothing. Assuming pit is town, the role is probably something like "A good thing happens if you hammer scum, A bad thing happens if you hammer town", and nothing if you hammer neither. And obviously reverse the good bad if pit is scum.

That's actually wrong. Something bad happens if i hammer scum (considering that it means that i hammered scum it's still good for us) and something good happens if i hammer town (that's why i wanted to hammer on day1 -> day1 has the highest chance to hit town with the hammer, but i'm no longer sure about that)

So your power is actually negative-utility for town, though only slightly.

It's more like the team of the hammered gets a consolation, since i won't hammer someone who wouldn't be hammered otherwise.

[Awaclus]

i won't hammer someone who wouldn't be hammered otherwise.

Shouldn't you hammer someone at L-1 when you think they're scum and they've had the chance to claim, even if you're the only one willing to hammer them?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Ick. I misread my PM. It's support: Ichimaru Gin, not encourage. I'm at a loss as to how I misremembered that.  Also on mobile currently.