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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #875 on: April 30, 2015, 11:08:33 am »

We can theoretically end this game and win it in one night. Make some smart moves. What do we know? What is the best lynch to get the most information?
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #876 on: April 30, 2015, 11:09:17 am »

That appeared fast.

I do think that we should use these lynches though.

So who do you want to lynch?

Seprix/LA!

For whys?
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #877 on: April 30, 2015, 11:13:55 am »

That appeared fast.

I do think that we should use these lynches though.

So who do you want to lynch?

Seprix/LA!

For whys?

LA has felt pretty scummy to me since day 1 but I gave him a bye since hes new. Seprix Just feels like he switches votes whenever a wagon hes on starts stalling and moves to the next likely target. It feels like hes just looking for a lynch and doesn't care who it is.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #878 on: April 30, 2015, 11:18:48 am »

That appeared fast.

I do think that we should use these lynches though.

So who do you want to lynch?

Seprix/LA!

For whys?

LA has felt pretty scummy to me since day 1 but I gave him a bye since hes new. Seprix Just feels like he switches votes whenever a wagon hes on starts stalling and moves to the next likely target. It feels like hes just looking for a lynch and doesn't care who it is.

Hydrad is right. I have like no confidence in my reads. Something I need to work on.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #879 on: April 30, 2015, 11:57:28 am »

vote: faust

well  I was wrong.

Lynching once is the same as lynching twice, but with half the odds of a scum lynch.  You're  salty because you thought this would be an easy win.  So your team got page?

You don't even bother to read what I say, do you?
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #880 on: April 30, 2015, 12:00:59 pm »

Then expound as to how lynching once is better than lynching twicE.  We have a ton of reads, and can assuredly hit scum in the two lynches.  What does 1 do?

I have already explained that. Some more detail.

If we lynch twice...

we go into night with 7 players alive. Page shoots, taking it down to 6. Now mafia can just choose to no kill because Swamp Hag is scary, and we're at 6 alive which is no better than 5 alive.

If we lynch once...

we go into night with 8 players alive. Page shoots, we're 7. Mafia has to shoot (in which case we catch scum) or they'll be giving us a free lynch, which we instead would have had today, only by then we'll have way more information.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #881 on: April 30, 2015, 12:03:27 pm »

Why would scum choose to no kill?  Double if killing wins them, yknow, the game?
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #882 on: April 30, 2015, 12:07:31 pm »

I mean swamp hag is okay and all, but you'll never figure out who is hated at 4:3
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #883 on: April 30, 2015, 12:15:34 pm »

I mean swamp hag is okay and all, but you'll never figure out who is hated at 4:3

Well, I intend to lynch scum today.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #884 on: April 30, 2015, 12:17:54 pm »

We can theoretically end this game and win it in one night. Make some smart moves. What do we know? What is the best lynch to get the most information?

Today, no lynch gives any information, at least for a while.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #885 on: April 30, 2015, 12:18:47 pm »

And I have no bloody idea why Grey acts as though we're certain to lynch scum if we lynch twice.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #886 on: April 30, 2015, 05:40:37 pm »

Completely forgot about this game, sorry. I agree with faust, a single lynch actualy seems better than the double lynch.
I mean swamp hag is okay and all, but you'll never figure out who is hated at 4:3
Why not? Even if it takes 24h per player, that's still enough time. + We can surely find a time where 4 (or more) of us have 15 minutes time to coordinate 7 votes each...
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #887 on: April 30, 2015, 08:21:59 pm »

I mean swamp hag is okay and all, but you'll never figure out who is hated at 4:3

Well, I intend to lynch scum today.
And I have no bloody idea why Grey acts as though we're certain to lynch scum if we lynch twice.
  ;)

Come vote scum with us.  I'll offer a hint, he's suggesting we try and get a 3 vote wagon on each player in LyLo without any concern about a possible quickhammer...
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #888 on: April 30, 2015, 09:07:31 pm »

I mean swamp hag is okay and all, but you'll never figure out who is hated at 4:3

Well, I intend to lynch scum today.
And I have no bloody idea why Grey acts as though we're certain to lynch scum if we lynch twice.
  ;)

Come vote scum with us.  I'll offer a hint, he's suggesting we try and get a 3 vote wagon on each player in LyLo without any concern about a possible quickhammer...

I'm bad with hints.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #889 on: May 01, 2015, 12:54:34 am »

So who do you want to lynch?

Seprix/LA!

That's funny because Seprix is the person I find most suspicious right now.
vote: Seprix (for now)
For the same reason Hydrad said:
LA has felt pretty scummy to me since day 1 but I gave him a bye since hes new. Seprix Just feels like he switches votes whenever a wagon hes on starts stalling and moves to the next likely target. It feels like hes just looking for a lynch and doesn't care who it is.
People are saying I seem scummy, but I don't remember anyone presenting a case or reason for it. Is it because, like Seprix, I don't have much go on against anyone? 
Now I kinda feel hypocritical for voting Seprix. I'm about to hammer Pit, but I think I want another day to consider options.

Faust seemed towny most of the game until he started pushing no lynch. I don't think Swamp Hag would keep mafia from killing, and agree with Grey that it's really unlikely that we wouldn't hit mafia with at least one of those lynches. Town kills are always better than mafia kills. Let's use our town kills.
Giving up a lynch... Loses us a lynch.  With no benefit.

hmmm, I didn't think pit seemed particularly suspicious until this post:
Completely forgot about this game, sorry. I agree with faust, a single lynch actualy seems better than the double lynch.
I mean swamp hag is okay and all, but you'll never figure out who is hated at 4:3
Why not? Even if it takes 24h per player, that's still enough time. + We can surely find a time where 4 (or more) of us have 15 minutes time to coordinate 7 votes each...
Besides my obvious dislike for pushing no-lynch, I really don't like the idea of trying to get each person to L-1 to kill the hated scum when it would be so easy for scum to hammer whoever.  Then again... if scum hammers a townsperson, then we'll know he's scum. Is that such a bad thing?

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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #890 on: May 01, 2015, 12:58:22 am »

Why not? Even if it takes 24h per player, that's still enough time. + We can surely find a time where 4 (or more) of us have 15 minutes time to coordinate 7 votes each...
Besides my obvious dislike for pushing no-lynch, I really don't like the idea of trying to get each person to L-1 to kill the hated scum when it would be so easy for scum to hammer whoever.  Then again... if scum hammers a townsperson, then we'll know he's scum. Is that such a bad thing?
Hmmm, I just got what 4:3 means. So yes, if scum hammers a townie at 4:3 that would be bad.

(giving in to the usage of the word 'scum' to mean mafia. It's not my preference, but it makes for an easy adjective. It wouldn't really work to say mafia-ee.)

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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #891 on: May 01, 2015, 01:02:17 am »

...okay I'm convinced
vote: pit

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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #892 on: May 01, 2015, 01:09:01 am »

I like the term Maffish, myself.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #893 on: May 01, 2015, 01:11:43 am »

Maffiish. Okay I'm totally going to start using that.

(Yay, I don't have to use the term 'scum'. Scum is too broad a term. Cutpurses, thieves, and swindlers are all scum, but not mafia.)

Seems like most people have gone to bed by the time I get to a conversation. So... how's it going Seprix?

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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #894 on: May 01, 2015, 01:13:45 am »

Lol, I just made that up. I might use it sometimes though, I like the sound of it.

I'm fine. I'm still not sold on what to do.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #895 on: May 01, 2015, 01:20:57 am »

Also in my neck of the woods, we use the word villager instead of townie.  And someone's really acting maffish if they cut off the neck of the woods.

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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #896 on: May 01, 2015, 03:25:45 am »

K. It's super late here. I'll be back tomorrow. I'm of course ok with a Seprix lynch, but I'm wary of GreyICE. It's difficult to discern which of his/faust's plans seem better right now--that could just be because I'm tired though.

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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #897 on: May 01, 2015, 04:44:41 am »

...did LA just hammer pit? Someone said something about him being at L-1 before.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #898 on: May 01, 2015, 04:51:28 am »

Vote Count 2.faust

Faust (1): Silverspawn
Seprix (1): Ichimaru Gin
LibraryAdventurer (1): Hydrad
xxpittip (4): Witherweaver, GreyICE, Seprix, LibraryAdventurer (L-1)

No Lynch (1): faust

Not Voting (1): xxpittip

No, everything's good. Still, man, check these vote counts. Noone should die without being able to claim, or we might lynch Page/Swamp Hag.
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Re: RMM 24 - Dominion: Adventures Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #899 on: May 01, 2015, 05:43:56 am »

yeah this is also not a good wagon, especially now with Seprix and LA on it. I'd much rather lynch Seprix today.
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