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[faust]

What's the case against ADK anyway?

[Witherweaver]

What's the case against ADK anyway?

ADK spent most of Day 1 not doing much and jumping on convenient wagons.  He picked up a bit in the latter part of  Day 1, but then spent about all of Day 2 just sitting on my wagon with a weak reason and no kind of effort to determine whether or not I'm town.  My wagon was the kind of wagon scum could excuse themselves from after a mislynch ("Well, he was so anti-town...").  Basically, he hasn't done any scumhunting.  Town!ADK is a pretty active and somewhat aggressive scumhunter.  He usually finds his own reasons for things and generally has a few points that are his own and not seen or agreed by other players.  I haven't seen any evidence of that this game.  It's possible he's simply disengaged from this one, but he feels to me here like he has in other scum games.  Also, I think ADK is a little more likely to be disengaged as scum than as town.

To a reread of him yourself and see if you see my points.

[Witherweaver]

*Do

[Joseph2302]

Joseph, if you don't get lynched, can I trust you to poison e?

Yes, if I don't get lynched, I will poison e.

I will note that the plan quoted by Joseph protects Joseph (from me and others) at night.

Another point against Joseph and his valiant protectors

True, but we're not using it. Plus it was the only actual plan proposed.

What's the case against ADK anyway?

ADK spent most of Day 1 not doing much and jumping on convenient wagons.  He picked up a bit in the latter part of  Day 1, but then spent about all of Day 2 just sitting on my wagon with a weak reason and no kind of effort to determine whether or not I'm town.  My wagon was the kind of wagon scum could excuse themselves from after a mislynch ("Well, he was so anti-town...").  Basically, he hasn't done any scumhunting.  Town!ADK is a pretty active and somewhat aggressive scumhunter.  He usually finds his own reasons for things and generally has a few points that are his own and not seen or agreed by other players.  I haven't seen any evidence of that this game.  It's possible he's simply disengaged from this one, but he feels to me here like he has in other scum games.  Also, I think ADK is a little more likely to be disengaged as scum than as town.

To a reread of him yourself and see if you see my points.

I agree, there's nothing there that really says town to me, he seems a lot less active than usual. His N1 action could be town or scum (giving me the 1-shot doubling power). Is ADK still L-1?

[faust]

Well, okay. Let's see how this turns out.

Vote: ADK I think this brings him back to L-1.

I still prefer Ichi, and to an extent silver, WW and e, but these don't seem to happen. If anything changes, I'm more than happy to change my vote. But I'd rather lynch ADK now than see Joseph lynched by some ignorant folk close to deadline.

[Joseph2302]

Intent to hammer at some point before the deadline. There's no way lynching me is good, so this seems like my only option to hit scum. And I think ADK may well be scum.

[Witherweaver]

See, posts like that are why I'm not all that confident in Joseph's towniness.

[Awaclus]

See, posts like that are why I'm not all that confident in Joseph's towniness.

He has been like this in the past as town.

[Awaclus]

Also, if he's scum, don't we just learn about it tomorrow? We can lynch him then.

[Witherweaver]

See, posts like that are why I'm not all that confident in Joseph's towniness.

He has been like this in the past as town.

 

Yeah, that's true.

Also, if he's scum, don't we just learn about it tomorrow? We can lynch him then.

I think only possibly.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm not really sure what to say here. Yes, I've disengaged a bit, but I also feel that I've done my share of scumhunting here. I think that most of the "case" against me is an overblown case of OMGUS.

If I do get lynched, WW, e, and silverspawn are still my top scumreads. I'd definitely look at my wagon for scum in the following days, as I'm pretty sure I'm a lynch of convenience here.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not really sure what to say here. Yes, I've disengaged a bit, but I also feel that I've done my share of scumhunting here. I think that most of the "case" against me is an overblown case of OMGUS.

If I do get lynched, WW, e, and silverspawn are still my top scumreads. I'd definitely look at my wagon for scum in the following days, as I'm pretty sure I'm a lynch of convenience here.

How could it be OMGUS when you were a high scum read of mine far before you starting trying to get me lynched?

[faust]

Let's see if an alternate wagon can get any traction.

Vote: silverspawn

[faust]

Even though I actually don't like silver that much...

Vote: Witherweaver feels better.

[Witherweaver]

This is moving backwards.

[Witherweaver]

Alternate wagons that are worthwhile are Ichi... well, I don't know about others.  Silver is a maybe.. what else is questionable about him aside from his handling of Hydrad?

[Witherweaver]

Did you reread ADK, Faust?  Did you disagree?

[faust]

silver has the issue that I don't think he's played his role in a very pro-town way.

I'd absolutely do Ichi, but noone seems to agree with me, I don't get the feeling that a wagon on him is viable.

[faust]

Did you reread ADK, Faust?  Did you disagree?

Sorry, no time for rereading... the points against ADK are reasonable, but not strong in any way. And it really bugs me that all my scum reads are on the wagon.

[Witherweaver]

silver has the issue that I don't think he's played his role in a very pro-town way.

I'd absolutely do Ichi, but noone seems to agree with me, I don't get the feeling that a wagon on him is viable.

I don't really get that.. if I had Silver's power it makes perfect sense to protect myself against Joseph, as well as my top town reads... why would I protect anyone else?

I guess the other option is to protect self and town reads against top scum read, but then you could be wrong with your scum read and end up Roleblocking town.

So, okay, Joseph being Roleblocked would prevent "confirmation" of his role, but that confirmation is pretty iffy anyway.  I don't really see how Silver made a bad choice here.

[Witherweaver]

Did you reread ADK, Faust?  Did you disagree?

Sorry, no time for rereading... the points against ADK are reasonable, but not strong in any way. And it really bugs me that all my scum reads are on the wagon.

Well, okay, but it would help.  And I don't particularly agree with your scum reads, and obviously I'm not scum, so that's not a very compelling point for me.

[faust]

Did you reread ADK, Faust?  Did you disagree?

Sorry, no time for rereading... the points against ADK are reasonable, but not strong in any way. And it really bugs me that all my scum reads are on the wagon.

Well, okay, but it would help.  And I don't particularly agree with your scum reads, and obviously I'm not scum, so that's not a very compelling point for me.

Well, I didn't expect to convince you to vote for yourself.

[faust]

Deadline in less than an hour, right? Anyone around besides WW?

[Witherweaver]

Did you reread ADK, Faust?  Did you disagree?

Sorry, no time for rereading... the points against ADK are reasonable, but not strong in any way. And it really bugs me that all my scum reads are on the wagon.

Well, okay, but it would help.  And I don't particularly agree with your scum reads, and obviously I'm not scum, so that's not a very compelling point for me.

Well, I didn't expect to convince you to vote for yourself.

Well, no, but you could convince me that ADK is not a good lynch.

[Witherweaver]

I think deadline was 3:30 EST, so that's in three hours.