Topic: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (Town Wins!) (Read 192544 times)

Joseph2302 · « **Reply #1200 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:02:54 pm »

Quote from: Witherweaver on March 20, 2015, 06:44:29 pm

But he wasn't scum in many of those games, right?
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He was scum sometimes, from what I can remember.

Quote from: faust on March 20, 2015, 07:55:45 pm
So, that was a nice little exercise. For tonight, I most want Joseph and ash confirmed. Possibly e. I'm sure we can come up with something to do that.
I think checking me makes sense, since I spent the early bit of D2 getting confused/talking rubbish about my role. Ash too seems sensible, as name is suggestive, and he's one of the more likely people to fakeclaim IMO (since he's good at making up RMM roles).

Joseph2302 · « **Reply #1201 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:03:29 pm »

Quote from: Witherweaver on March 20, 2015, 06:44:29 pm

But he wasn't scum in many of those games, right?

He was scum sometimes, from what I can remember.

Quote from: faust on March 20, 2015, 07:55:45 pm

So, that was a nice little exercise. For tonight, I most want Joseph and ash confirmed. Possibly e. I'm sure we can come up with something to do that.

I think checking me makes sense, since I spent the early bit of D2 getting confused/talking rubbish about my role. Ash too seems sensible, as name is suggestive, and he's one of the more likely people to fakeclaim IMO (since he's good at making up RMM roles).

This is the syntax I wanted.......

Witherweaver · « **Reply #1202 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:05:52 pm »

We don't have confirmation of Joseph from people dying. (From you watching is possible.). Combinations of Attacks and the prevention thing can cover a fake claim here.

Ichimaru Gin · « **Reply #1203 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:08:16 pm »

I like faust's most recent post. On WW, I still like lynching him--I don't think everyone that's pushing his lynch is townie though--which gives me slight pause. WW is just so slippery as scum...I don't know. The fact that I'm considering unvoting him makes me more inclined to think he's scum.

PPE: I really like a Joseph lynch too.

Witherweaver · « **Reply #1204 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:11:28 pm »

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin on March 20, 2015, 08:08:16 pm

I like faust's most recent post. On WW, I still like lynching him--I don't think everyone that's pushing his lynch is townie though--which gives me slight pause. WW is just so slippery as scum...I don't know. The fact that I'm considering unvoting him makes me more inclined to think he's scum.

PPE: I really like a Joseph lynch too.

Hardly seems fair, lynch me if you think I'm scummy, but if I don't look scummy then I have to be scum, so lynch me.

Ichimaru Gin · « **Reply #1205 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:14:29 pm »

Quote from: Witherweaver on March 20, 2015, 08:11:28 pm

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin on March 20, 2015, 08:08:16 pm
I like faust's most recent post. On WW, I still like lynching him--I don't think everyone that's pushing his lynch is townie though--which gives me slight pause. WW is just so slippery as scum...I don't know. The fact that I'm considering unvoting him makes me more inclined to think he's scum.

PPE: I really like a Joseph lynch too.

Hardly seems fair, lynch me if you think I'm scummy, but if I don't look scummy then I have to be scum, so lynch me.

You have a point. Honestly, I'd rather lynch and vote: Joseph right now I think.

Ichimaru Gin · « **Reply #1206 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:16:42 pm »

Yeah. And I don't really get those people saying "let him poison 2 more people tonight and it'll be totally amazing!" either.

2.71828..... · « **Reply #1207 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:17:57 pm »

Town! - Ashersky, faust, WW
maybe town - chairs, Joseph, Awaclus
maybe scum - silverspawn, ADK
Scum! - Ichi

Ichimaru Gin · « **Reply #1208 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:20:36 pm »

Why aren't we lynching e again?

2.71828..... · « **Reply #1209 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:21:39 pm »

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin on March 20, 2015, 08:20:36 pm

Why aren't we lynching e again?

Build a case against me and I might think about it

Ichimaru Gin · « **Reply #1210 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:24:13 pm »

Quote from: 2.71828..... on March 20, 2015, 08:21:39 pm

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin on March 20, 2015, 08:20:36 pm
Why aren't we lynching e again?

Build a case against me and I might think about it

Oohkay. I'll try it.

2.71828..... · « **Reply #1211 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:26:33 pm »

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin on March 20, 2015, 08:24:13 pm

Quote from: 2.71828..... on March 20, 2015, 08:21:39 pm
Quote from: Ichimaru Gin on March 20, 2015, 08:20:36 pm
Why aren't we lynching e again?

Build a case against me and I might think about it
Oohkay. I'll try it.

Witherweaver · « **Reply #1212 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:26:58 pm »

Faust, you more than others should know that my scum game is not anti town in the least. In fact, I try to act as protown as possible and don't like to get a lot of heat. Would I fakeclaim this as scum? Man, I'd have to have a really bad role that I just couldn't admit. But how likely is that, given the roles you see and how they have mixed utility? I guess you can say I hoped to never be called to verify my role because
it's not that great, but it was clear once you started pressing for role names that you had some kind of Role investigation, we had to be upfront with names.

No, this would be a terrible fake claim, and it would put scum!me in a bad position.

PPEs

faust · « **Reply #1213 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:27:34 pm »

Quote from: Witherweaver on March 20, 2015, 08:05:52 pm

We don't have confirmation of Joseph from people dying. (From you watching is possible.). Combinations of Attacks and the prevention thing can cover a fake claim here.

I'd say 2 people dying the same night would be pretty close to confirmation. That might not happen though.

faust · « **Reply #1214 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:29:14 pm »

Quote from: 2.71828..... on March 20, 2015, 08:17:57 pm

Town! - Ashersky, faust, WW
maybe town - chairs, Joseph, Awaclus
maybe scum - silverspawn, ADK
Scum! - Ichi

This is a decent list, except for the WW part. Why do you have a town read on him? I mean, I kinda get not having a scum read, but what indicates he's town?

Witherweaver · « **Reply #1215 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:29:55 pm »

Quote from: faust on March 20, 2015, 08:27:34 pm

Quote from: Witherweaver on March 20, 2015, 08:05:52 pm
We don't have confirmation of Joseph from people dying. (From you watching is possible.). Combinations of Attacks and the prevention thing can cover a fake claim here.

I'd say 2 people dying the same night would be pretty close to confirmation. That might not happen though.

Depends on when it happens. If there are no kills until then, then not really.

Ichimaru Gin · « **Reply #1216 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:30:32 pm »

I'll be out for a bit. Be back in a couple hours with something on e.

Also, Liam Neeson is awesome.

A Drowned Kernel · « **Reply #1217 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:36:33 pm »

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin on March 20, 2015, 08:20:36 pm

Why aren't we lynching e again?

I've asked that repeatedly and no one seems to care. I think he's been much lurkier here than I've ever seen him.

2.71828..... · « **Reply #1218 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:37:56 pm »

Quote from: faust on March 20, 2015, 08:29:14 pm

Quote from: 2.71828..... on March 20, 2015, 08:17:57 pm
Town! - Ashersky, faust, WW
maybe town - chairs, Joseph, Awaclus
maybe scum - silverspawn, ADK
Scum! - Ichi

This is a decent list, except for the WW part. Why do you have a town read on him? I mean, I kinda get not having a scum read, but what indicates he's town?

The way his whole claim thing played out. Everyone was claiming, playing along, and it just felt too easy. Town!WW sees that and wants to rebel. There might be an undercurrent of "why is this so easy? feels scummy" but that is me putting words in his mouth.

I don't think scum!WW plays it like this. I think he goes along, is amicable, and generally useful. Doesn't put himself in a position where a lot of people can critique his play and want to lynch him.

And recently he has been making a lot of sense and scumhunting. Town

Witherweaver · « **Reply #1219 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:39:18 pm »

I think he's been townie and making good points. He could be doing the sensible scum making townie cases thing, but I don't get that impression.

A Drowned Kernel · « **Reply #1220 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:41:14 pm »

If e and WW aren't partners I will eat my hat.

2.71828..... · « **Reply #1221 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:42:35 pm »

Quote from: A Drowned Kernel on March 20, 2015, 08:41:14 pm

If e and WW aren't partners I will eat my hat.

We are partners. We are both town

Witherweaver · « **Reply #1222 on:** March 20, 2015, 08:47:50 pm »

Quote from: A Drowned Kernel on March 20, 2015, 08:41:14 pm

If e and WW aren't partners I will eat my hat.

Ooooh. Light up your grill, set the table, get out the fancy silverware and prepare the seasoning.

A Drowned Kernel · « **Reply #1223 on:** March 20, 2015, 09:24:54 pm »

Seriously. WW waits until after faust and ash, the people who might contradict his claim, have claimed before he's willing to claim how he used his action, then conveniently says that he targeted no one, then when asked why he didn't want to give up this information he just says "I don't like being told what to do." Why are we not just auto-lynching him?

Witherweaver · « **Reply #1224 on:** March 20, 2015, 09:26:48 pm »

Quote from: A Drowned Kernel on March 20, 2015, 09:24:54 pm

Seriously. WW waits until after faust and ash, the people who might contradict his claim, have claimed before he's willing to claim how he used his action, then conveniently says that he targeted no one, then when asked why he didn't want to give up this information he just says "I don't like being told what to do." Why are we not just auto-lynching him?

Because why would you? How do any of things even begin to justify a lynch aside from you just don't like it?

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