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[Witherweaver]

Fine I'm exaggerating, but the stopping kills part was not very highly suggested by his role description.

Anyway, I got confused at some point and thought that we had a contradiction with Joseph targetting XP.

[Joseph2302]

Why was there this big discussion of Roleblocking then? Joseph blocking kills never made sense in the first place.

Because I was stupid, and thought I blocked kills, in which case the roleblock thing made sense, and everyone assumed I knew what I was talking about. But yes, blocking kills is too good.

[Witherweaver]

Why was there this big discussion of Roleblocking then? Joseph blocking kills never made sense in the first place.

Because I was stupid, and thought I blocked kills, in which case the roleblock thing made sense, and everyone assumed I knew what I was talking about. But yes, blocking kills is too good.

I somehow got it in my head that Faust had watched XP and would have seen your role target him.

[Joseph2302]

I've lost track of the claims of what people did N1, so I'm going to try and write them down in one post:

Joseph2302- poisoned XP, which failed (because they got attacked)
2.7- targetted Ashersky
WW- targetted me, no idea about Governor
Awaclus- targetted chairs, got nothing (chairs verified this)
ADK- targetted me (i've confirmed this)
chairs- mailed XP asking who to mail N2
silverspawn- targetted me, with faust, IG, silverspawn
Ichi- didn't use ability, I believe? Unless I'm missing a post?
Ashersky- can't find a claim.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Why was there this big discussion of Roleblocking then? Joseph blocking kills never made sense in the first place.

Because I was stupid, and thought I blocked kills, in which case the roleblock thing made sense, and everyone assumed I knew what I was talking about. But yes, blocking kills is too good.

I somehow got it in my head that Faust had watched XP and would have seen your role target him.

WW/faust partner slip?

[Awaclus]

Why was there this big discussion of Roleblocking then? Joseph blocking kills never made sense in the first place.

Because I was stupid, and thought I blocked kills, in which case the roleblock thing made sense, and everyone assumed I knew what I was talking about. But yes, blocking kills is too good.

I somehow got it in my head that Faust had watched XP and would have seen your role target him.

WW/faust partner slip?

How is that a partner slip?

[A Drowned Kernel]

I don't know, maybe faust's claim was fake and he and WW talked about it in the QT the night before but then they didn't get the story straight today or something? I've kind of lost track of this game, TBH.

[Witherweaver]

I don't know, maybe faust's claim was fake and he and WW talked about it in the QT the night before but then they didn't get the story straight today or something? I've kind of lost track of this game, TBH.

I'd probably be much more conscious of what my partner claimed in that kind of situation.

[Witherweaver]

And I have a hard time seeing Faust's claim as fake.. Fake claiming Role Watcher in an RMM game is a bit out there.. and it requires him really getting everyone to massclaim and him claiming last almost all the time.  And everyone being upfront about their exact Role name, else he could be caught in a lie.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Yeah, it was kind of a stretch. Well, back to lynching you, I guess.

[Witherweaver]

Yeah, it was kind of a stretch. Well, back to lynching you, I guess.

That is also a bad idea.

[Joseph2302]

Also, my list above should have had faust claimed to have targetted chairs (that's right?)

[Joseph2302]

How many days til deadline? I guess the easiest way to find out is to Request: Vote Count.

[faust]

I've lost track of the claims of what people did N1, so I'm going to try and write them down in one post:

Joseph2302- poisoned XP, which failed (because they got attacked)
2.7- targetted Ashersky
WW- targetted me, no idea about Governor
Awaclus- targetted chairs, got nothing (chairs verified this)
ADK- targetted me (i've confirmed this)
chairs- mailed XP asking who to mail N2
silverspawn- targetted me, with faust, IG, silverspawn
Ichi- didn't use ability, I believe? Unless I'm missing a post?
Ashersky- can't find a claim.

ash targeted me I think.

[A Drowned Kernel]

We still have a week, deadline is next wednesday.

[ashersky]

The claim that contradicted Joseph is silverspawn's.  He should re-explain it for all to understand.

[ashersky]

I've lost track of the claims of what people did N1, so I'm going to try and write them down in one post:

Joseph2302- poisoned XP, which failed (because they got attacked)
2.7- targetted Ashersky
WW- targetted me, no idea about Governor
Awaclus- targetted chairs, got nothing (chairs verified this)
ADK- targetted me (i've confirmed this)
chairs- mailed XP asking who to mail N2
silverspawn- targetted me, with faust, IG, silverspawn
Ichi- didn't use ability, I believe? Unless I'm missing a post?
Ashersky- can't find a claim.

ash targeted me I think.

Correct.

[ashersky]

I don't know, maybe faust's claim was fake and he and WW talked about it in the QT the night before but then they didn't get the story straight today or something? I've kind of lost track of this game, TBH.

I don't see faust/WW as partners.  I don't really see faust as scum, even with his misguided support of Joseph for a bit there.  My result on him helps, too.

[ashersky]

I've lost track of the claims of what people did N1, so I'm going to try and write them down in one post:

Joseph2302- poisoned XP, which failed (because they got attacked)
2.7- targetted Ashersky
WW- targetted me, no idea about Governor
Awaclus- targetted chairs, got nothing (chairs verified this)
ADK- targetted me (i've confirmed this)
chairs- mailed XP asking who to mail N2
silverspawn- targetted me, with faust, IG, silverspawn
Ichi- didn't use ability, I believe? Unless I'm missing a post?
Ashersky- can't find a claim.

Did he misrepresent anyone else in this?  Just wondering.

He has his modified claim and missed mine.  Just wondering about anyone else, given he's scum and it's in his best interest to spread misinformation.

[ashersky]

Fine I'm exaggerating, but the stopping kills part was not very highly suggested by his role description.

Anyway, I got confused at some point and thought that we had a contradiction with Joseph targetting XP.

I see you are continuing to speak and defend Joseph on his behalf.  You are really tying yourself to him, either to save your partner or gain ubertowncred if we're all wrong about him.

I'm going with partner, given he's scum.

[ashersky]

As for WW: He's playing openly anti-town, and I won't have that. Consider it a policy vote if you will.

Wherin lynching scum is considered anti-town.

What you really mean to say is, "I know WW is town, but I want to lynch him anyway."  That's fine, but be honest.

It's considered anti-twon to withhold which player cannot get lynched today, and to hope for that exact player to be "lynched" so that the game moves to night without a lynch.

Good additional point against WW.

If we lynch the governor'ed player, town's game is seriously screwed.  It is not in town's interest at all to not know.  It's doing nothing but wasting our time and our day to help scum survive.

WW is extremely anti-town here, regardless of alignment.

[Witherweaver]

Fine I'm exaggerating, but the stopping kills part was not very highly suggested by his role description.

Anyway, I got confused at some point and thought that we had a contradiction with Joseph targetting XP.

I see you are continuing to speak and defend Joseph on his behalf.  You are really tying yourself to him, either to save your partner or gain ubertowncred if we're all wrong about him.

I'm going with partner, given he's scum.

Do you have any notion of what the word "defend" means?  If nothing in this line of conversation relates to an attack, how can there be a defense? 

[ashersky]

I mean, how hard is it to imagine that Joseph, and/or his partner, going "hey, you just really messed up in Dune 2, plus you make mistakes all the time, let's use that to our advantage" and faking this whole thing.

Pretty hard.

Very hard, considering I wasn't in Dune 2 game...

LOL.  You are right.  I've been confusing you with Seprix for the entire game.

[Witherweaver]

As for WW: He's playing openly anti-town, and I won't have that. Consider it a policy vote if you will.

Wherin lynching scum is considered anti-town.

What you really mean to say is, "I know WW is town, but I want to lynch him anyway."  That's fine, but be honest.

It's considered anti-twon to withhold which player cannot get lynched today, and to hope for that exact player to be "lynched" so that the game moves to night without a lynch.

Good additional point against WW.

If we lynch the governor'ed player, town's game is seriously screwed.  It is not in town's interest at all to not know.  It's doing nothing but wasting our time and our day to help scum survive.

WW is extremely anti-town here, regardless of alignment.

Uh-huh.

[ashersky]

Fine I'm exaggerating, but the stopping kills part was not very highly suggested by his role description.

Anyway, I got confused at some point and thought that we had a contradiction with Joseph targetting XP.

I see you are continuing to speak and defend Joseph on his behalf.  You are really tying yourself to him, either to save your partner or gain ubertowncred if we're all wrong about him.

I'm going with partner, given he's scum.

Do you have any notion of what the word "defend" means?  If nothing in this line of conversation relates to an attack, how can there be a defense?

We are "attacking" the honesty of his claim.  You are "defending" the truth in his claim by rationalizing what he said, explaining how it works, making it seem not as false as it really is.