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[faust]

I want to lynch Joseph more than I've ever wanted to lynch anyone ever in any game ever.

Faust is looking worse and worse.

Tell me why checking his role is not an option.

I can't confirm it.  Remember, I only get type of action.  You know else is "killing?"  The factional kill.

Hrm. If the person you target performs two actions, will you be informed of both?

[faust]

I somehow thought ash's role would work similar to mine (yielding exact roles); unvote for now.

[faust]

I'm trying to get a grasp on how this reflects on my read on silver. I mean, he's probably not lying, but I can't say I like the way he used his role mainly for self-preservation.

Anyway, I guess I still prefer WW and Ichi.

Vote: WW

[faust]

Witherweaver is also a good target since he's the only player we can be sure isn't Governored.

[Witherweaver]

As for WW: He's playing openly anti-town, and I won't have that. Consider it a policy vote if you will.

Wherin lynching scum is considered anti-town.

What you really mean to say is, "I know WW is town, but I want to lynch him anyway."  That's fine, but be honest.

[faust]

As for WW: He's playing openly anti-town, and I won't have that. Consider it a policy vote if you will.

Wherin lynching scum is considered anti-town.

What you really mean to say is, "I know WW is town, but I want to lynch him anyway."  That's fine, but be honest.

It's considered anti-twon to withhold which player cannot get lynched today, and to hope for that exact player to be "lynched" so that the game moves to night without a lynch.

[Joseph2302]

I don't like Faust defending Joseph either.  He's been towny otherwise, though, as opposed to others.

I've also been towny!

I agree, for once I don't think you're scum.

I mean, how hard is it to imagine that Joseph, and/or his partner, going "hey, you just really messed up in Dune 2, plus you make mistakes all the time, let's use that to our advantage" and faking this whole thing.

Pretty hard.

Very hard, considering I wasn't in Dune 2 game...

As for WW: He's playing openly anti-town, and I won't have that. Consider it a policy vote if you will.

Wherin lynching scum is considered anti-town.

What you really mean to say is, "I know WW is town, but I want to lynch him anyway."  That's fine, but be honest.

It's considered anti-twon to withhold which player cannot get lynched today, and to hope for that exact player to be "lynched" so that the game moves to night without a lynch.

Kind of agree with this, no lynch seems bad here.

[faust]

I mean, how hard is it to imagine that Joseph, and/or his partner, going "hey, you just really messed up in Dune 2, plus you make mistakes all the time, let's use that to our advantage" and faking this whole thing.

Pretty hard.

Very hard, considering I wasn't in Dune 2 game...

+1

[ashersky]

I want to lynch Joseph more than I've ever wanted to lynch anyone ever in any game ever.

Faust is looking worse and worse.

Tell me why checking his role is not an option.

I can't confirm it.  Remember, I only get type of action.  You know else is "killing?"  The factional kill.

Hrm. If the person you target performs two actions, will you be informed of both?

I think that's better left unsaid, no?

[Witherweaver]

As for WW: He's playing openly anti-town, and I won't have that. Consider it a policy vote if you will.

Wherin lynching scum is considered anti-town.

What you really mean to say is, "I know WW is town, but I want to lynch him anyway."  That's fine, but be honest.

It's considered anti-twon to withhold which player cannot get lynched today, and to hope for that exact player to be "lynched" so that the game moves to night without a lynch.

Who said I'm hoping some specific player gets lynched?

[Witherweaver]

I'm not sure this issue is resolved:

We still have a (potential) problem:

Joseph targets XP with Poison.  Scum Attacks XP, which neutralizes Poison.  Would Joseph show up as targetting XP, or does the "neutralization" act as a Roleblock for purposes of targetting?

What happens if you Watch someone that was Doctored and Attacked?  You'd get both people targetting, right?

Are we sure we don't have the lying!Joseph vs. scum!Roleblocker dilemma?

[Joseph2302]

I'm not sure this issue is resolved:

We still have a (potential) problem:

Joseph targets XP with Poison.  Scum Attacks XP, which neutralizes Poison.  Would Joseph show up as targetting XP, or does the "neutralization" act as a Roleblock for purposes of targetting?

What happens if you Watch someone that was Doctored and Attacked?  You'd get both people targetting, right?

Are we sure we don't have the lying!Joseph vs. scum!Roleblocker dilemma?

I guess you'd see both results, although I have no specific information about it.

[Witherweaver]

But Faust did not see you target XP.

[Joseph2302]

But Faust did not see you target XP.

Wait, really? Well in that case, either:
(a). I'm lying
(b). faust is lying
(c). I got roleblocked (either by silverspawn, or scum who've faked their role)
I know 100% that (a) isn't true, so it's either (b) or (c).

[chairs]

vote: ww

[faust]

But Faust did not see you target XP.

err... yeah, that might be because I targeted chairs. Just a hunch.

[faust]

As for WW: He's playing openly anti-town, and I won't have that. Consider it a policy vote if you will.

Wherin lynching scum is considered anti-town.

What you really mean to say is, "I know WW is town, but I want to lynch him anyway."  That's fine, but be honest.

It's considered anti-twon to withhold which player cannot get lynched today, and to hope for that exact player to be "lynched" so that the game moves to night without a lynch.

Who said I'm hoping some specific player gets lynched?

Me.

[Witherweaver]

But Faust did not see you target XP.

err... yeah, that might be because I targeted chairs. Just a hunch.

Huh?  I thought you watched XP.

[faust]

I think that's better left unsaid, no?

Well, potentially yes. I was thinking, if you target Joseph and receive "killing" twice, then that would pretty much confirm his role.

[Witherweaver]

Why was there this big discussion of Roleblocking then? Joseph blocking kills never made sense in the first place.

[faust]

But Faust did not see you target XP.

err... yeah, that might be because I targeted chairs. Just a hunch.

Huh?  I thought you watched XP.

Maybe it's because I got a result on XP. That can be confusing, some time before I also thought for a moment that I had targeted XP.

[faust]

Why was there this big discussion of Roleblocking then? Joseph blocking kills never made sense in the first place.

Well, Joseph said he could block kills, I believed him.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not following.

[Witherweaver]

Why was there this big discussion of Roleblocking then? Joseph blocking kills never made sense in the first place.

Well, Joseph said he could block kills, I believed him.

But it was obviously very flawed.  His own explanation of his role did not suggest that to be true.

[faust]

Why was there this big discussion of Roleblocking then? Joseph blocking kills never made sense in the first place.

Well, Joseph said he could block kills, I believed him.

But it was obviously very flawed.  His own explanation of his role did not suggest that to be true.

Yeah, it's cool how you knew this before us all. You're like one of those Adventures playtesters.