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[silverspawn]

wow, that's... a pretty interesting plan.

problems I see so far
-> it relies heavily on your sincerity. If you're scum, it does nothing
-> if scum has some kind of hidden roleblocking power, they can just roleblock e
-> if you're town and both scum attack you tonight, you will die without being able to reveal your results

I have a really strong town read on you, so I don't see #1 as a big problem

also-- does it have to be everyone? can't at least ash target someone else?

[faust]

wow, that's... a pretty interesting plan.

problems I see so far
-> it relies heavily on your sincerity. If you're scum, it does nothing
-> if scum has some kind of hidden roleblocking power, they can just roleblock e
-> if you're town and both scum attack you tonight, you will die without being able to reveal your results

I have a really strong town read on you, so I don't see #1 as a big problem

also-- does it have to be everyone? can't at least ash target someone else?

@2: That's an issue (though scum probably wants to target me with roleblocking), but then at least we know that scum has roleblocking - which makes it likely that Joseph is telling the truth.

@3: But that's the cool thing - Awaclus will steal my result, and he cannot die. Obviously you'd have to trust Awaclus, but he's a town read for me.

[faust]

Actually... just thought about a better option: Everyone targets me, I target e. That way, I cannot die, and we don't need to rely on Awaclus. Awaclus can do wahtever he wants to then (not target me though).

[silverspawn]

@3: But that's the cool thing - Awaclus will steal my result, and he cannot die. Obviously you'd have to trust Awaclus, but he's a town read for me.

ohh, right. sneaky.

Actually... just thought about a better option: Everyone targets me, I target e. That way, I cannot die, and we don't need to rely on Awaclus. Awaclus can do wahtever he wants to then (not target me though).

but you get poisoned

[faust]

@3: But that's the cool thing - Awaclus will steal my result, and he cannot die. Obviously you'd have to trust Awaclus, but he's a town read for me.

ohh, right. sneaky.

Actually... just thought about a better option: Everyone targets me, I target e. That way, I cannot die, and we don't need to rely on Awaclus. Awaclus can do wahtever he wants to then (not target me though).

but you get poisoned

No, e targets me, so it's still him that gets poisoned.

[Joseph2302]

I'm going to vote: Joseph as well. His claim and claimed target are weird--and he's lurking.

Am I lurking that much? I guess I've been a bit less active than usual, but I've been busy quite a lot, and ill for a couple of days too.

@3: But that's the cool thing - Awaclus will steal my result, and he cannot die. Obviously you'd have to trust Awaclus, but he's a town read for me.

ohh, right. sneaky.

Actually... just thought about a better option: Everyone targets me, I target e. That way, I cannot die, and we don't need to rely on Awaclus. Awaclus can do wahtever he wants to then (not target me though).

but you get poisoned

No, e targets me, so it's still him that gets poisoned.

Seems like an okay plan, because if scum do something different, it immediately outs them. But does it rely on trusting faust? Also, I can poison 2 people tonight if I want.

[ashersky]

If we aren't lynching WW or Ichi or ADK, shouldn't we lynch from the set with a very probable liar?

[ashersky]

Further, seems safest to lynch the killing role out of the pair.  We've hit one scum already, even if we mislynch, we have the other one.  Enough of us can investigate silver too.

[Joseph2302]

Further, seems safest to lynch the killing role out of the pair.  We've hit one scum already, even if we mislynch, we have the other one.  Enough of us can investigate silver too.

If no-one fakeclaimed a role, then it's true that either me or silverspawn is lying. However, I think it's possible someone fakeclaimed their role. This makes me more hesitant about this plan, and faust's, as you two seem like the most likely to be able to make up a good fake role (as you two have been mods for RMM games before, which involves making good, imaginative roles, and no-one else here has to my knowledge).

[faust]

Further, seems safest to lynch the killing role out of the pair.  We've hit one scum already, even if we mislynch, we have the other one.  Enough of us can investigate silver too.

I find it very hard to believe that scum would have a killing role here. I'd personally consider that close to bastard territory, considering the OP.

[faust]

Further, seems safest to lynch the killing role out of the pair.  We've hit one scum already, even if we mislynch, we have the other one.  Enough of us can investigate silver too.

If no-one fakeclaimed a role, then it's true that either me or silverspawn is lying. However, I think it's possible someone fakeclaimed their role. This makes me more hesitant about this plan, and faust's, as you two seem like the most likely to be able to make up a good fake role (as you two have been mods for RMM games before, which involves making good, imaginative roles, and no-one else here has to my knowledge).

Well, my plan is there to verify roles. No you could question whether to trust me, by I think a lot points towards me being town, so you shouldn't let an irrational fear could your judgment. It's super dangerous to fake claim the role I have, I doubt I would do that as scum.

[faust]

Seems like an okay plan, because if scum do something different, it immediately outs them. But does it rely on trusting faust? Also, I can poison 2 people tonight if I want.

Yes, you probably should choose a second poison target.

[ashersky]

Further, seems safest to lynch the killing role out of the pair.  We've hit one scum already, even if we mislynch, we have the other one.  Enough of us can investigate silver too.

I find it very hard to believe that scum would have a killing role here. I'd personally consider that close to bastard territory, considering the OP.

My point is, he's lying scum, not an actual poisoner.

I mean, he claims to have vigged the keystone of our plan.

[Witherweaver]

Also, XP seemed pretty much to be town yesterday.  Like.. why would you even consider vigging him?  Okay, he had a role, whatever, so did everyone else.

[faust]

Further, seems safest to lynch the killing role out of the pair.  We've hit one scum already, even if we mislynch, we have the other one.  Enough of us can investigate silver too.

I find it very hard to believe that scum would have a killing role here. I'd personally consider that close to bastard territory, considering the OP.

My point is, he's lying scum, not an actual poisoner.

I mean, he claims to have vigged the keystone of our plan.

If your point is that Joseph is lying, then phrasing it as him being "the killing role out of the pair" is fairly misleading.

Why would scum!Joseph claim to have vigged Xerxes?

[Witherweaver]

Well it's possible he may have been confused with how the claimed roles works, or suspected watcher/tracker type of roles were holding things back or misleading.

[Witherweaver]

Wait a  second.. According to Joseph, scum attacks Stab?  Did anyone know about this?  It doesn't seem to be in the flavor.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I'm okay with lynching Ichi today, because his role name could actually stand for some kind of roleblocking power.

You could at least pretend to want to lynch people other than me you know. Plus, dat reason...

[faust]

This whole movement against Joseph seems scummy. I mean, if he's town, he's definitely our best PR by a wide margin. He's even boosted for tonight? Man, if I was scum, I'd really want this wagon to succeed.

[faust]

I'm okay with lynching Ichi today, because his role name could actually stand for some kind of roleblocking power.

You could at least pretend to want to lynch people other than me you know. Plus, dat reason...

I'll vote WW if you do!

[Witherweaver]

That would be lame.

Does anyone else have flavor information/explanation regarding their role in their role QT?  I do not.

[Ichimaru Gin]

This whole movement against Joseph seems scummy. I mean, if he's town, he's definitely our best PR by a wide margin. He's even boosted for tonight? Man, if I was scum, I'd really want this wagon to succeed.

Not if he's your partner you wouldn't. I see few reasons to think he is town.

PPE: I might take you up on that.

PPE: Yeah, I have no flavor explanation either.

[Joseph2302]

This whole movement against Joseph seems scummy. I mean, if he's town, he's definitely our best PR by a wide margin. He's even boosted for tonight? Man, if I was scum, I'd really want this wagon to succeed.

I completely agree.

[2.71828.....]

Wait a  second.. According to Joseph, scum attacks Stab?  Did anyone know about this?  It doesn't seem to be in the flavor.

The flavour idea is that if I poison them and scum stabs them, then the stab causes the poison to leave them, so they don't die.
So as XP was attacked, then as I poisoned XP, he shouldn't have been killed.
Which means someone must have stopped me attacking XP.

This is very interesting.  Why stab? 

[Witherweaver]

AND... who else has a "must be town" role? Every other role in the game could be alignment-switched and it would still work balance-wise.