Topic: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (Town Wins!) (Read 193492 times)

faust · « **Reply #800 on:** March 17, 2015, 01:11:53 pm »

Well. This is all very interesting. So scum blocks Joseph somehow (either that, or Joseph is scum, but this seems like incredibly dangerous play for scum). This means we should look closely at unconfirmable roles and/or silverspawn.

Witherweaver should really claim by now. I have no idea why he thinks keeping this stuff to himself would be beneficial in any way.

faust · « **Reply #801 on:** March 17, 2015, 01:13:07 pm »

chairs - can you confirm that Awaclus targeted you?

chairs · « **Reply #802 on:** March 17, 2015, 01:29:58 pm »

Quote from: faust on March 17, 2015, 12:05:59 pm

Quote from: chairs on March 17, 2015, 11:29:28 am
I mailed XP asking him to mail me back who he wanted me to mail on N2.

People can mail you back?

Yes. I didn't want to claim that initially, so that we had an ace up our sleeve in that regard, but I realized there's not a lot of benefit in hiding it.

Quote from: faust on March 17, 2015, 01:13:07 pm

chairs - can you confirm that Awaclus targeted you?

Also yes.

faust · « **Reply #803 on:** March 17, 2015, 01:34:41 pm »

This gives me a town read on chairs.

2.71828..... · « **Reply #804 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:21:32 pm »

As far as the Joseph poison thing. My initial understanding of his power was that scum attacking a player would negate both poison and attack. However, if Joseph is telling the truth, then I think it is probably just an attack negates poison, but poison does not negate the attack. So XP still died because he was attacked twice.

Joseph, is that correct?

silverspawn · « **Reply #805 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:23:53 pm »

okay, this is interesting. I did actually target Joseph tonight - but I didn't name XP, so it should not have stopped him (reminder, I can only roleblock against a number of people, in this case 3). I named faust, IG, and myself.

and before anyone asks, I chose to do this because

1) I didn't want to be poisoned
2) my power isn't actually that great
3) IG and faust are my biggest town reads, and I think poisoning them would have been a mistake, but I could see Joseph doing it
4) I'm not actually convinced Joseph is town based on his role. I could easily see him being scum with an X-shot modifier to his poisoning, and as an alternative to his attack

needless to say, my power shouldn't have changed anything tonight, as I did not name XP.

Awaclus · « **Reply #806 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:29:15 pm »

Quote from: silverspawn on March 17, 2015, 02:23:53 pm

okay, this is interesting. I did actually target Joseph tonight - but I didn't name XP, so it should not have stopped him (reminder, I can only roleblock against a number of people, in this case 3). I named faust, IG, and myself.

and before anyone asks, I chose to do this because

1) I didn't want to be poisoned
2) my power isn't actually that great
3) IG and faust are my biggest town reads, and I think poisoning them would have been a mistake, but I could see Joseph doing it
4) I'm not actually convinced Joseph is town based on his role. I could easily see him being scum with an X-shot modifier to his poisoning, and as an alternative to his attack

needless to say, my power shouldn't have changed anything tonight, as I did not name XP.

Sounds scummy.

silverspawn · « **Reply #807 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:30:23 pm »

Quote from: Awaclus on March 17, 2015, 02:29:15 pm

Sounds scummy.

no it doesn't. what's scummy about it?

2.71828..... · « **Reply #808 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:36:00 pm »

Quote from: silverspawn on March 17, 2015, 02:30:23 pm

Quote from: Awaclus on March 17, 2015, 02:29:15 pm
Sounds scummy.

no it doesn't. what's scummy about it?

I agree with silverspawn. I think he used his power in the most pro-town way that he could think of. Sure, a bit selfish, but I don't fault him for that. I think scum is more likely to try to play of the self-sacrificial for the benefit of town act.

Witherweaver · « **Reply #809 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:36:18 pm »

Silver sounds town to me.

faust · « **Reply #810 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:55:47 pm »

Vote: silverspawn

faust · « **Reply #811 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:57:37 pm »

It's pretty likely that one of Joseph/silver is lying IMO, and I think it's silver.

faust · « **Reply #812 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:58:00 pm »

e, who was your target?

Awaclus · « **Reply #813 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:00:05 pm »

Quote from: 2.71828..... on March 17, 2015, 02:36:00 pm

Quote from: silverspawn on March 17, 2015, 02:30:23 pm
Quote from: Awaclus on March 17, 2015, 02:29:15 pm
Sounds scummy.

no it doesn't. what's scummy about it?

I agree with silverspawn. I think he used his power in the most pro-town way that he could think of. Sure, a bit selfish, but I don't fault him for that. I think scum is more likely to try to play of the self-sacrificial for the benefit of town act.

I don't have a problem with him using his power to protect himself and his town reads. Admitting that he targeted Joseph without naming XP is what sounds suspicious, because it's exactly what scum who actually roleblocked Joseph tonight would claim.

faust · « **Reply #814 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:00:27 pm »

WW, remind me again why it is pro-town that you don't claim your Governor target.

Awaclus · « **Reply #815 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:00:55 pm »

I mean last night, not tonight.

Joseph2302 · « **Reply #816 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:05:38 pm »

Quote from: faust on March 17, 2015, 06:52:20 am

Quote from: Joseph2302 on March 16, 2015, 05:52:47 pm
1 shot-Duplicator: At night, you may spend this to use any Role twice.

I'm pretty sure you just violated a rule of this game.

Yes I did. As a result, I'm hated for today only. (I was waiting for mod permission to reveal this)

faust · « **Reply #817 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:05:50 pm »

I might have a plan for tonight. it involves e dying.

faust · « **Reply #818 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:06:46 pm »

Quote from: Joseph2302 on March 17, 2015, 03:05:38 pm

Quote from: faust on March 17, 2015, 06:52:20 am
Quote from: Joseph2302 on March 16, 2015, 05:52:47 pm
1 shot-Duplicator: At night, you may spend this to use any Role twice.

I'm pretty sure you just violated a rule of this game.
Yes I did. As a result, I'm hated for today only. (I was waiting for mod permission to reveal this)

@Arch: Can you confirm this?

silverspawn · « **Reply #819 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:07:55 pm »

Quote from: faust on March 17, 2015, 02:57:37 pm

It's pretty likely that one of Joseph/silver is lying IMO, and I think it's silver.

why?

Quote from: Awaclus on March 17, 2015, 03:00:05 pm

I don't have a problem with him using his power to protect himself and his town reads. Admitting that he targeted Joseph without naming XP is what sounds suspicious, because it's exactly what scum who actually roleblocked Joseph tonight would claim.

I don't get this. why should I name XP?

Joseph2302 · « **Reply #820 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:09:03 pm »

Quote from: 2.71828..... on March 17, 2015, 02:36:00 pm

Quote from: silverspawn on March 17, 2015, 02:30:23 pm
Quote from: Awaclus on March 17, 2015, 02:29:15 pm
Sounds scummy.

no it doesn't. what's scummy about it?

I agree with silverspawn. I think he used his power in the most pro-town way that he could think of. Sure, a bit selfish, but I don't fault him for that. I think scum is more likely to try to play of the self-sacrificial for the benefit of town act.

I think those actions would be pro-town, but he could have made them up. I really wanted silverspawn to claim before me, but unfortunately, it didn't look to be happening.

PPE: 1

faust · « **Reply #821 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:09:43 pm »

Quote from: silverspawn on March 17, 2015, 03:07:55 pm

Quote from: Awaclus on March 17, 2015, 03:00:05 pm
I don't have a problem with him using his power to protect himself and his town reads. Admitting that he targeted Joseph without naming XP is what sounds suspicious, because it's exactly what scum who actually roleblocked Joseph tonight would claim.

I don't get this. why should I name XP?

You came up with the XP plan. I'd think you kind of want him alive so that it goes through.

Joseph2302 · « **Reply #822 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:10:06 pm »

Was actually PPE:2 on last post.

PPE:1 on this post.

faust · « **Reply #823 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:11:02 pm »

Quote from: silverspawn on March 17, 2015, 03:07:55 pm

Quote from: faust on March 17, 2015, 02:57:37 pm
It's pretty likely that one of Joseph/silver is lying IMO, and I think it's silver.

why?

Well, if not, someone lied about their role. I'm thinking of a plan to out any liars.

Awaclus · « **Reply #824 on:** March 17, 2015, 03:12:22 pm »

Quote from: silverspawn on March 17, 2015, 03:07:55 pm

Quote from: Awaclus on March 17, 2015, 03:00:05 pm
I don't have a problem with him using his power to protect himself and his town reads. Admitting that he targeted Joseph without naming XP is what sounds suspicious, because it's exactly what scum who actually roleblocked Joseph tonight would claim.

I don't get this. why should I name XP?

I'm not arguing that town!you should have done something different. I'm arguing that this is exactly what scum!you should claim, and that's why the claim is suspicious.

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