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Author Topic: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (Town Wins!)  (Read 192539 times)

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2015, 09:28:11 am »

Just read the setup; looks like my claim was less useful than I thought it would be. Do you (pl.) think we should fullckaim?

vote: massclaim

Protip: Read setup before claiming.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2015, 09:44:20 am »

Vote: No Massclaim. It potentially helps mafia work out who the other faction are.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2015, 10:11:31 am »

Vote: No Massclaim. It potentially helps mafia work out who the other faction are.

I don't believe that this is the case.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #103 on: March 06, 2015, 10:12:19 am »

Vote: No Massclaim. It potentially helps mafia work out who the other faction are.

I don't believe that this is the case.

Why not?
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #104 on: March 06, 2015, 10:20:47 am »

Setup claims powers were handed out independently of alignment... I assume we can infer "except where appropriate".

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #105 on: March 06, 2015, 10:49:06 am »

Oh interesting. I'm ok with mass claim.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #106 on: March 06, 2015, 11:09:09 am »

Setup claims powers were handed out independently of alignment... I assume we can infer "except where appropriate".
Ok, that changes things.
Vote: No Massclaim. It potentially helps mafia work out who the other faction are.
Vote: Massclaim. Can't hurt town.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #107 on: March 06, 2015, 11:55:04 am »

I'm also surprised that my role counts as "simple". It seems quite complicated to me (also note this needed special forum capabilities)
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #108 on: March 06, 2015, 12:02:46 pm »

vote: no massclaim.  I think my power is probably more useful if it gets revealed naturally, rather than me claiming it D1.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #109 on: March 06, 2015, 01:39:48 pm »

vote: no massclaim

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #110 on: March 06, 2015, 02:43:53 pm »

vote: no massclaim.  I think my power is probably more useful if it gets revealed naturally, rather than me claiming it D1.

Only thinking about your own role is rather narrow-minded.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #111 on: March 06, 2015, 02:48:03 pm »

Vote Count 1.massclaim

Yes (5): faust, silver, XP, Joseph, Hydrad
No (3): ADK, chairs, Ichi

Not Voting (4): Awaclus, ashersky, e, WW
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #112 on: March 06, 2015, 02:49:39 pm »

Actually Awaclus said he didn't care, so we need only one more for massclaim to get a majority. Then we can push everyone who refuses to participate to L-1 to get them to claim. It'll be fun!
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #113 on: March 06, 2015, 03:19:13 pm »

Actually Awaclus said he didn't care, so we need only one more for massclaim to get a majority. Then we can push everyone who refuses to participate to L-1 to get them to claim. It'll be fun!
Eh. I'm considering changing my stance on massclaiming. Scum might have anti-town or obviously scum PR's and will have to make something up--which might incriminate them. My power is...strange and I would actually appreciate input on how to use it to the best advantage.

Yeah. So actually put me down as vote: massclaim although I'm normally against this sort of thing.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #114 on: March 06, 2015, 03:27:59 pm »

Actually Awaclus said he didn't care, so we need only one more for massclaim to get a majority. Then we can push everyone who refuses to participate to L-1 to get them to claim. It'll be fun!
Eh. I'm considering changing my stance on massclaiming. Scum might have anti-town or obviously scum PR's and will have to make something up--which might incriminate them. My power is...strange and I would actually appreciate input on how to use it to the best advantage.

Yeah. So actually put me down as vote: massclaim although I'm normally against this sort of thing.

"huh, I realized fighting the massclaim is scummy"

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #115 on: March 06, 2015, 03:32:59 pm »

I can change my mind whenever I like.

And no, the massclaim could out important town PR's to scum--and also help scum figure out each other's teams. And I by no means think opposing it is necessarily scummy--though moreso now given what I said in my last post.

Should I just claim now?

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #116 on: March 06, 2015, 03:34:41 pm »

I can change my mind whenever I like.

And no, the massclaim could out important town PR's to scum--and also help scum figure out each other's teams. And I by no means think opposing it is necessarily scummy--though moreso now given what I said in my last post.

Should I just claim now?

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #117 on: March 06, 2015, 03:39:07 pm »

kk.

I am the Town Blackmailer. And my power is kind of different. It basically revolves around me picking one person to target--and then naming several other people and if any of those people I name gets lynched, my target is protected from attacks for the following night.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #118 on: March 06, 2015, 04:11:44 pm »

vote: IG

I don't think I'm allowed to talk about the reasons due to no-quoting rules.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #119 on: March 06, 2015, 04:12:52 pm »

This isn't a very serious vote though - I think I can use it to good effect if you survive for a few days, so I think it's worth keeping around in case I'm wrong.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2015, 04:13:20 pm »

kk.

I am the Town Blackmailer. And my power is kind of different. It basically revolves around me picking one person to target--and then naming several other people and if any of those people I name gets lynched, my target is protected from attacks for the following night.

Why do you think it would be better if this had come out naturally?
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2015, 04:16:20 pm »

This isn't a very serious vote though - I think I can use it to good effect if you survive for a few days, so I think it's worth keeping around in case I'm wrong.

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Um. This is super confusing to me.

kk.

I am the Town Blackmailer. And my power is kind of different. It basically revolves around me picking one person to target--and then naming several other people and if any of those people I name gets lynched, my target is protected from attacks for the following night.

Why do you think it would be better if this had come out naturally?
When did I say that? I claimed cause I wanted to. Not because of any pressure. Plus, my ability isn't like super useful and could be helped by coordination of town to decide who to lynch.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #122 on: March 06, 2015, 04:23:34 pm »

This isn't a very serious vote though - I think I can use it to good effect if you survive for a few days, so I think it's worth keeping around in case I'm wrong.

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Um. This is super confusing to me.

to me too

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #123 on: March 06, 2015, 04:33:31 pm »

Why do you think it would be better if this had come out naturally?
When did I say that? I claimed cause I wanted to. Not because of any pressure. Plus, my ability isn't like super useful and could be helped by coordination of town to decide who to lynch.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #124 on: March 06, 2015, 04:35:01 pm »

This isn't a very serious vote though - I think I can use it to good effect if you survive for a few days, so I think it's worth keeping around in case I'm wrong.

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Um. This is super confusing to me.

to me too

I mean the combination of his role and mine is good, so the slight suspicion I have isn't enough to override the protownness I can get out of it.

Do you make your choices in public, IG?
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