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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #825 on: February 25, 2015, 12:36:29 pm »

Vote Count 3.2

chairs (2): silverspawn, XeresPraelor
faust (1): chairs
Hydrad (1):  faust
silverspawn (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (4): Egork, Ichimaru Gin, Twistedarcher, Seprix

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 ends at 06:00 p.m. on March 2, 2015.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #826 on: February 25, 2015, 12:53:19 pm »

Hmm. I should probably reread a bit to refresh myself on this game. I like the cases made by faust and SS. I know it's something that can be easy for scum to imitate--but it feels like genuine scumhunting in both cases.

When was the last time TA was around?

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #827 on: February 25, 2015, 12:55:36 pm »

What is worst about chairs is that, at several points in the game (in fact at least 3 times), wagons have been forming on him, and they never took off. This is, I think, a pretty good scum tell, and it makes me want to vote: chairs

I also really, really, really dislike the way he treats the Joseph lynch. It was a bad lynch. He was town. Lynching town is not good. I hate how he is just like "I'm glad this is out of the way" instead of "sorry for pushing this bad lynch that hurt town, I was wrong" or something. Unfortunately, this doesn't make me think he's scum more, I actually think it's a slight town tell. not enough though.

His wagon history is of course as bad as it gets. Hammered the first town and heavily pushed the second.

I -am- upset that Joseph wasn't scum, but I'm also glad we got it out of the way.  Would I have enjoyed seeing that flip go Mafia? Yes.  Am I sad that we're now in a position where we've popped the Watcher and a VT? Yes.  Did I think Joseph was scum? Absolutely.

And sorry, I've been paying a bit more attention to other games; I'll see if I can't work up a scum-to-chum soon.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #828 on: February 26, 2015, 05:18:07 am »

I'm not sure I come to the same conclusions as silver. I don't think chairs is particularly scummy. When he hammered Awaclus, it already looked like it was too late to get Joseph lynched.

Xerxes is scummy.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #829 on: February 26, 2015, 05:28:09 am »

I'm not sure I come to the same conclusions as silver. I don't think chairs is particularly scummy. When he hammered Awaclus, it already looked like it was too late to get Joseph lynched.

Xerxes is scummy.

scummier than hydrad?

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #830 on: February 26, 2015, 05:28:39 am »

and yeah, I can totally see how you can reach different conclusions based on the same facts

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #831 on: February 26, 2015, 05:32:13 am »

the biggest point with chairs for me is just that his lynch seems so hard

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #832 on: February 26, 2015, 05:35:25 am »

I'm not sure I come to the same conclusions as silver. I don't think chairs is particularly scummy. When he hammered Awaclus, it already looked like it was too late to get Joseph lynched.

Xerxes is scummy.

scummier than hydrad?

Not sure yet. Maybe. I feel like lynching on wagon is better because off wagon, there's only you/Hydrad, and at most one of you is scum.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #833 on: February 26, 2015, 06:52:36 am »

Vote: chairs
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #834 on: February 26, 2015, 07:39:52 pm »

Um. Is anyone there?

Pretty sure it's been a loooooooong time since TA has posted...And actually checking the thread, looks like he hasn't posted in 6 days.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #835 on: February 26, 2015, 07:56:54 pm »

Hey all, been busy this week. Ichi is correct, I haven't posted D3. I've read over most of D3 but haven't read back over the entire game yet -- will do so tomorrow. Was disappointed by Joseph's flip but I agree that it's good it's out of the way, it was a big distraction.

Confused by how I'm confident town to everyone -- it doesn't make sense to me. If I were any of you I'd be very suspicious of me, but I've skated by D2 and D3. Will target this in my re-read to see where it's coming from, since I'd guess the sentiment is more from scum than from town.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #836 on: February 26, 2015, 08:00:18 pm »

I, uh, kind of forgot you were playing.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #837 on: February 26, 2015, 08:06:52 pm »

yay TA's back.

if we can't SS. I think I like XP actually.

Vote: XP
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #838 on: February 27, 2015, 01:49:21 am »

I like the XP lynch, but I'll have to think about it. I'll be reading his posts before I make that determination.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #839 on: February 27, 2015, 01:59:42 am »

Hey all, been busy this week. Ichi is correct, I haven't posted D3. I've read over most of D3 but haven't read back over the entire game yet -- will do so tomorrow. Was disappointed by Joseph's flip but I agree that it's good it's out of the way, it was a big distraction.

Confused by how I'm confident town to everyone -- it doesn't make sense to me. If I were any of you I'd be very suspicious of me, but I've skated by D2 and D3. Will target this in my re-read to see where it's coming from, since I'd guess the sentiment is more from scum than from town.

You seem fine to me. You haven't said anything blatantly stupid like Joseph and you are actually (or were) engaging in asking questions. I have no real reason besides the inactivity to brand you a villain.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #840 on: February 27, 2015, 05:49:12 am »

Hey all, been busy this week. Ichi is correct, I haven't posted D3. I've read over most of D3 but haven't read back over the entire game yet -- will do so tomorrow. Was disappointed by Joseph's flip but I agree that it's good it's out of the way, it was a big distraction.

Confused by how I'm confident town to everyone -- it doesn't make sense to me. If I were any of you I'd be very suspicious of me, but I've skated by D2 and D3. Will target this in my re-read to see where it's coming from, since I'd guess the sentiment is more from scum than from town.

For me at least, it's not so much that you're townie, but that the other players are just scummier. I feel like lynching you leaves us with a lot of lurkers (that seems a weird thing to say, considering how you lurked yourself, but I'm confident you'll be more active). I'd much rather take out one of the players who don't have lots of content, as I'm sure scum hides among those.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #841 on: February 27, 2015, 03:40:27 pm »

Vote Count 3.3

chairs (3): silverspawn, XeresPraelor, Egork
faust (1): chairs
Hydrad (1):  faust
XerxesPraelor (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (3): Ichimaru Gin, Twistedarcher, Seprix

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 ends at 06:00 p.m. on March 2, 2015.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #842 on: February 27, 2015, 04:05:50 pm »

Um. Is anyone there?

Pretty sure it's been a loooooooong time since TA has posted...And actually checking the thread, looks like he hasn't posted in 6 days.

How's your reread going?
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #843 on: February 27, 2015, 04:14:16 pm »

Um. Is anyone there?

Pretty sure it's been a loooooooong time since TA has posted...And actually checking the thread, looks like he hasn't posted in 6 days.

How's your reread going?
It's going. I know I probably share a similar amount of blame for this game stalling as everyone else. But seriously, people should post.

After skimming a lot of the thread, I'm liking my silver vote a lot less. I'm not really feeling the chairs case right now though. I kind of like vote: XP. He's voting chairs but would prefer faust?

Also, he's someone who I have a lot of trouble telling his town and scumplay apart. He feels more legitimately scummy to me here though.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #844 on: February 27, 2015, 04:17:59 pm »

chairs: What your position on Xerxes vs chairs? Or maybe you'd like to vote Hydrad? The more people pile on Xerxes, the less I'm willing to vote him.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #845 on: February 27, 2015, 04:18:41 pm »

Haha, I should realize it doesn't make much sense to ask people whether they like the case on themselves.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #846 on: February 27, 2015, 04:21:20 pm »

Yeah, Hydrad looks better just going by how this day plays out:

I say we should lynch among silver/Hydrad.
I conclude that I find Hydrad scummier.
silver rereads and ends up voting chairs.
I argue that Xerxes is also scummy.
My Hydrad case is completely ignored; instead, people pile on chairs/Xerxes.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #847 on: February 27, 2015, 04:23:16 pm »

My Hydrad case is completely ignored; instead, people pile on chairs/Xerxes.

Yeah, I also find that really weird.

I don't think your Hydrad case is bad. I'd rather lynch Hydrad than XP.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #848 on: February 27, 2015, 04:23:41 pm »

Hey, I'm still here! Just busy right now, finished up a song that I posted a link to in Random Stuff Pt. II if you care to listen. If not, eh. I'm going to play Destiny for a bit. When I get back, I'll do that reading thing I talked about in the last post with Windows XP.... Bad joke. Sorry. Probably is such an old joke, it's outdated. Bill Gates wouldn't even support that joke any longer and neither would Microsoft corp.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #849 on: February 27, 2015, 04:26:59 pm »

Want to lynch: chairs, Hydrad
Would lynch: TA, IG, XP, and also faust, feeling worse about him now... not entirely sure why
Will not lynch: Seprix
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