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Author Topic: M58 : Flavorless mafia - Town wins !  (Read 110025 times)

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #350 on: February 08, 2015, 08:28:37 pm »

Hmm this is hard. I find both of you scummy right now but I doubt your a team. Which one is right though.

I think I like Vote: IG a bit more
This sense that WW and I are the only valid places to put your vote at this point intrigues me. What makes you think that we aren't a team? Why do you like your vote on me better than WW?

It's good that something is happening in this game at least.

I've been having a hard time getting a scum read this game but for some reason you and ww stuck out as scummy.

Good points for you is keeping this game going and looks like your scum hunting. Weird feeling points is usually your defending is a lot different. This time it feels like your kinda accepting the votes a bit more. It just feels a bit different then your scum and town game slightly.

Now ya I could be misreading the situation but at the moment feels slightly scummy to me.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #351 on: February 08, 2015, 08:30:36 pm »

Hmm this is hard. I find both of you scummy right now but I doubt your a team. Which one is right though.

I think I like Vote: IG a bit more
This sense that WW and I are the only valid places to put your vote at this point intrigues me. What makes you think that we aren't a team? Why do you like your vote on me better than WW?

It's good that something is happening in this game at least.

I've been having a hard time getting a scum read this game but for some reason you and ww stuck out as scummy.

Good points for you is keeping this game going and looks like your scum hunting. Weird feeling points is usually your defending is a lot different. This time it feels like your kinda accepting the votes a bit more. It just feels a bit different then your scum and town game slightly.

Now ya I could be misreading the situation but at the moment feels slightly scummy to me.
I'm fine with this explanation. It seems pretty townie to me. Ha ha, this will just make you think I'm scum even more I guess.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #352 on: February 08, 2015, 08:31:30 pm »

Oh and as for the team part. I don't know but both your interactions don't sound like team member talk.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #353 on: February 09, 2015, 04:01:33 am »

PPE: WW being funny = scum!WW

Eh, I think WW being funny = WW.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #354 on: February 09, 2015, 04:05:58 am »

Ninja'd by Awaclus!

But seriously. If I feel like  my vote is bad, I will unvote and stay not voting for awhile until/unless someone else jumps out at me. That's just what I do though.

PPE: WW being funny = scum!WW

I've always found that behavior to be suggestive of scum voting for town.  After all, if you're town, you don't know the alignment of the person you're voting for, and votes are generally a good thing.  Unless there is a danger of a quickhammer or something, why worry about leaving your vote?

I agree with you that keeping you vote > unvoting, but I believe it's a playstyle thing. When I am scum, I don't suddenly unvote - I know that town!me would never unvote, and so I don't do it as scum. Some other people just like to have a "justified" vote or no vote at all, and if there's no justification, they unvote whether town or scum.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #355 on: February 09, 2015, 04:07:05 am »

I'm fine with this explanation. It seems pretty townie to me. Ha ha, this will just make you think I'm scum even more I guess.

So you don't want to offer any counterargument? Well, yes, this does make me think you're scum even more.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #356 on: February 09, 2015, 04:08:27 am »

Oh, I don't know about the whole Ichi vs WW thing, I feel like I need to reread town!Ichi and scum!Ichi games because right now I can't make up my mind. WW feels townier to me than usual. I hope that means he's town.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #357 on: February 09, 2015, 04:13:51 am »

Okay, I've looked over stuff, and I kinda lean against voting Ichi now. He seems well within how he would play this as town (+ his scum play is usually different).
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #358 on: February 09, 2015, 04:16:45 am »

I'm fine with this explanation. It seems pretty townie to me. Ha ha, this will just make you think I'm scum even more I guess.

So you don't want to offer any counterargument? Well, yes, this does make me think you're scum even more.
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Hydrad's read on me is partially based on "gut" which by definition can't really be argued against. Furthermore, my meta obviously doesn't support his conclusion since I've acted incredibly defensive as both town and scum--and have also gotten the entire gambit of suspicion as town and scum for being overly reactive/not reactive enough. Though at this point having seen how scum has managed to use my meta against me, I'm not certain I can tell the difference between willful misinterpretation or just an honest mistake. In this instance, I tend to lean towards the latter.

And...I should probably go to sleep. It's a bit past 1 here.

PPE's: a few. Also, there's quite a few people who haven't posted in a while, so that's not good.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #359 on: February 09, 2015, 06:58:58 am »

Vote Count 1.8

Seprix (2): silverspawn, chairs
Ichimaru Gin (2): Witherweaver, Hydrad
silverspawn (1): XerxesPraelor
Joseph2302 (1): Awaclus
XerxesPraelor (1): faust
Hydrad (1): A Drowned Kernel
Witherweaver (1): Ichimaru Gin

Not Voting (4): Seprix, Twistedarcher, Joseph2302, Egork

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 12:00 a.m. on February 12, 2015.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #360 on: February 09, 2015, 07:04:37 am »

Phone post :

I'm not getting a scummy feeling from anyone at the moment, will reread properly later today.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #361 on: February 09, 2015, 08:43:19 am »

I don't really have a scum read on Ichi.  I don't have a huge one on anyone else.  Currently the people I'd like to not lynch are:

Hydrad
Xerxes
Twisted Archer

Probably not Ichi, Faust, ADK, Seprix either. 

Vote: Silverspawn
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #362 on: February 09, 2015, 02:18:01 pm »

I don't know if i want to lynch Ichi, either. he's responded fairly well to my accusations.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #363 on: February 09, 2015, 02:19:13 pm »

I think XP is at the topof my lynch list at the moment.

vote: xerxespraelor
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #364 on: February 09, 2015, 05:14:14 pm »

I don't see much scumminess going on besides Joseph's joke thing, and I'm going to assume he's not scum this time, even though he pulled the same thing last time and turned out to be scum.

I'll probably do some reading and perhaps post some thoughts, but it's hard working with nothing.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #365 on: February 10, 2015, 12:21:35 am »

Prod:  Egork, A Drowned Kernel, XerxesPraelor, Awaclus, Silverspawn, and chairs.

But seriously. You guys should post. I'm entirely not sure if WW backing off of me makes me feel townier about him or not. In the past, he's maintained a townread on me while his partner engages me--yet it doesn't seem like I'm tunneled by anyone yet. I'll unvote for now I guess.

I'm actually considering sheeping WW here. Lurky silver is kind of scaring me.

His last post was this; which strikes me as a little odd.
@explaining yourself debate: it's all situational. Generally, I like to create unusual situations or force emotional posts if possible. I don't really buy that you need to post content in order for people to form reads on you.

Aside from general activity level, I'm not entirely sure how one is supposed to read you if you don't have content. Yeah, I'ma vote: silverspawn

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #366 on: February 10, 2015, 12:48:33 am »

Prod:  Egork, A Drowned Kernel, XerxesPraelor, Awaclus, Silverspawn, and chairs.

But seriously. You guys should post. I'm entirely not sure if WW backing off of me makes me feel townier about him or not. In the past, he's maintained a townread on me while his partner engages me--yet it doesn't seem like I'm tunneled by anyone yet. I'll unvote for now I guess.

I'm actually considering sheeping WW here. Lurky silver is kind of scaring me.

His last post was this; which strikes me as a little odd.
@explaining yourself debate: it's all situational. Generally, I like to create unusual situations or force emotional posts if possible. I don't really buy that you need to post content in order for people to form reads on you.

Aside from general activity level, I'm not entirely sure how one is supposed to read you if you don't have content. Yeah, I'ma vote: silverspawn

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #367 on: February 10, 2015, 02:45:55 am »

So, a bit more than 2 days to deadline, and our votes are widely spread...

chairs, silver: Wha makes you think Seprix is scum?
Awaclus: Do you think we will lynch Joseph today? If not, consider switching your vote.
ADK: Why Hydrad?
Seprix, Joseph: How about committing your vote?
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #368 on: February 10, 2015, 05:38:48 am »

Awaclus: Do you think we will lynch Joseph today? If not, consider switching your vote.

Well, it's starting to look like we won't. Vote: XP
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #369 on: February 10, 2015, 05:47:38 am »

Not that I disagree, but what are other people's reasons to vote Xerxes?
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #370 on: February 10, 2015, 06:47:06 am »

Vote Count 1.9

silverspawn (3): XerxesPraelor, Witherweaver, Ichimaru Gin
XerxesPraelor (3): faust, Twistedarcher, Awaclus
Seprix (2): silverspawn, chairs
Ichimaru Gin (1):  Hydrad
Hydrad (1): A Drowned Kernel

Not Voting (3): Seprix, Joseph2302, Egork

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 12:00 a.m. on February 12, 2015.

Prod:  Egork, A Drowned Kernel, XerxesPraelor, Awaclus, Silverspawn, and chairs.

Egork, A Drowned Kernel, XerxesPraelor and chairs have been prodded
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #371 on: February 10, 2015, 06:48:18 am »

I thought I posted in VLA

Still, reading now
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #372 on: February 10, 2015, 07:53:35 am »

So, a bit more than 2 days to deadline, and our votes are widely spread...

chairs, silver: Wha makes you think Seprix is scum?

I don't, unvote

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #373 on: February 10, 2015, 08:09:55 am »

Sorry for leaving - so what's the caseon me?
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #374 on: February 10, 2015, 09:38:34 am »

People were asking me about me voting for hydrad, pretty sure hydrad was one of them. Unfortunately, I've kind of lost track of this game. I remember I had a scum read on Hydrad from back when he self-voted, and that's about it.

For now, I'm going to go back to vote: joseph until I can do a proper reread, which should be tonight.
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