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[Hydrad]

also good news is so far faust isn't giving me a weird feeling so hes towny!

[faust]

also good news is so far faust isn't giving me a weird feeling so hes towny!

Thanks, but I feel I haven't really contributed a lot so far.

Also town points for Hydrad for this.

[faust]

I don't really like how Xerxes avoided this question.

I think Joseph is scummy but don't want to lynch him D1 to be fair, and think TA's case is bad but looks towny, and ss is scum. vote: silverspawn

Here's my gut scumteam guess for post-game accuracy checking:
SS/ADK/Hydrad

This doesn't make a lot of sense tome. Do you think Joseph is scum or don't you?

[Teproc]

Vote Count 1.7

Joseph2302 (2): Awaclus, Ichimaru Gin
Seprix (2): silverspawn, chairs
silverspawn (2): Hydrad, XerxesPraelor
Ichimaru Gin (1): Witherweaver
XerxesPraelor (1): faust
Hydrad (1): A Drowned Kernel

Not Voting (4): Seprix, Twistedarcher, Joseph2302, Egork

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 12:00 a.m. on February 12, 2015.

[XerxesPraelor]

I don't really like how Xerxes avoided this question.

I think Joseph is scummy but don't want to lynch him D1 to be fair, and think TA's case is bad but looks towny, and ss is scum. vote: silverspawn

Here's my gut scumteam guess for post-game accuracy checking:
SS/ADK/Hydrad

This doesn't make a lot of sense tome. Do you think Joseph is scum or don't you?

I answered that like twice.

[EgorK]

also good news is so far faust isn't giving me a weird feeling so hes towny!

Thanks, but I feel I haven't really contributed a lot so far.

Also town points for Hydrad for this.

Town point for budying?

[faust]

I don't really like how Xerxes avoided this question.

I think Joseph is scummy but don't want to lynch him D1 to be fair, and think TA's case is bad but looks towny, and ss is scum. vote: silverspawn

Here's my gut scumteam guess for post-game accuracy checking:
SS/ADK/Hydrad

This doesn't make a lot of sense tome. Do you think Joseph is scum or don't you?

I answered that like twice.

You mean this:

Because he's been lynched lately and it would be really frustrating as town to get lynched from basically nothing substantial. Later in the game if he's scum there'll be more evidence, and so we can lynch somewhere else for now that has actual concrete reasoning behind it.

What I'm getting from this is that you still find Joseph scummy. Then why isn't he on your scum team?

[faust]

also good news is so far faust isn't giving me a weird feeling so hes towny!

Thanks, but I feel I haven't really contributed a lot so far.

Also town points for Hydrad for this.

Town point for budying?

Yeah. I just don't think this comes from scum!Hydrad.

[XerxesPraelor]

Interactions

[Ichimaru Gin]

Wow. This game has kind of stalled. The Joseph wagon has pretty much fallen apart. It's not looking so much like that's going to happen today. So how about vote: WW. For having a lazy vote on me.

Also, I'm slightly wary of his whole "I have really bad reads as town lately" thing. Sure, it's kinda true--but it also seems like an easy thing for scum!WW to say and get away with acting scummy. He's already admitted to manipulating his meta--it kinda makes sense this might be something he'd repeat as town so people would be used to it when he decided to use it as scum.

[Witherweaver]

Sweet, I have a preemptive OMGUS vote already up.

[faust]

Wow. This game has kind of stalled. The Joseph wagon has pretty much fallen apart. It's not looking so much like that's going to happen today. So how about vote: WW. For having a lazy vote on me.

Also, I'm slightly wary of his whole "I have really bad reads as town lately" thing. Sure, it's kinda true--but it also seems like an easy thing for scum!WW to say and get away with acting scummy. He's already admitted to manipulating his meta--it kinda makes sense this might be something he'd repeat as town so people would be used to it when he decided to use it as scum.

I don't understand - are you saying that WW purposefully had bad reads the last games so that he can make this argument now? Because that makes zero sense.

[Witherweaver]

Wow. This game has kind of stalled. The Joseph wagon has pretty much fallen apart. It's not looking so much like that's going to happen today. So how about vote: WW. For having a lazy vote on me.

Also, I'm slightly wary of his whole "I have really bad reads as town lately" thing. Sure, it's kinda true--but it also seems like an easy thing for scum!WW to say and get away with acting scummy. He's already admitted to manipulating his meta--it kinda makes sense this might be something he'd repeat as town so people would be used to it when he decided to use it as scum.

I don't understand - are you saying that WW purposefully had bad reads the last games so that he can make this argument now? Because that makes zero sense.

It would make sense if I had displayed bad reads this game and was using that as a defense.

[Ichimaru Gin]

WW gets it. Also I may be slightly LA as my internet connection is acting up again.

I don't really see how my OMGUS vote is "preemptive" though. You think it's indicative of something else that's going to happen?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Dah. This is so frustrating trying to post with my internet cutting out every other second. I think I kind of understand your phrasing more. However, that bit about your meta was ancillary to you voting me for admittedly no reason--not getting a/the reaction you wanted, and then continuing to leave your vote on me. That just feels bad. My vote on Joseph wasn't really helping the game move along--I like my new vote better.

[Witherweaver]

Dah. This is so frustrating trying to post with my internet cutting out every other second. I think I kind of understand your phrasing more. However, that bit about your meta was ancillary to you voting me for admittedly no reason--not getting a/the reaction you wanted, and then continuing to leave your vote on me. That just feels bad. My vote on Joseph wasn't really helping the game move along--I like my new vote better.

I did not say there was no reason behind my vote for you. 

[Ichimaru Gin]

I know that. I should have said no good reason to vote me--as that would have been more accurate. I just find it interesting that you admit that you didn't really get what you wanted out of voting me and that you also voted me based upon a flawed assumption (that TA was voting for me), and yet you just left your vote there.

[Witherweaver]

I know that. I should have said no good reason to vote me--as that would have been more accurate. I just find it interesting that you admit that you didn't really get what you wanted out of voting me and that you also voted me based upon a flawed assumption (that TA was voting for me), and yet you just left your vote there.

Well these are interactions based upon my vote for you, so it doesn't seem all the failed.

The thing about me thinking TA voting for you as well is that then people are reacting to a wagon, which could have been informative.  One vote doesn't get as much attention.

I didn't change my vote because there was no reason to.  But I'll bite---who should I vote for instead?

[Awaclus]

I know that. I should have said no good reason to vote me--as that would have been more accurate. I just find it interesting that you admit that you didn't really get what you wanted out of voting me and that you also voted me based upon a flawed assumption (that TA was voting for me), and yet you just left your vote there.

Well these are interactions based upon my vote for you, so it doesn't seem all the failed.

The thing about me thinking TA voting for you as well is that then people are reacting to a wagon, which could have been informative.  One vote doesn't get as much attention.

I didn't change my vote because there was no reason to.  But I'll bite---who should I vote for instead?

Yourself of course.

[Witherweaver]

I know that. I should have said no good reason to vote me--as that would have been more accurate. I just find it interesting that you admit that you didn't really get what you wanted out of voting me and that you also voted me based upon a flawed assumption (that TA was voting for me), and yet you just left your vote there.

Well these are interactions based upon my vote for you, so it doesn't seem all the failed.

The thing about me thinking TA voting for you as well is that then people are reacting to a wagon, which could have been informative.  One vote doesn't get as much attention.

I didn't change my vote because there was no reason to.  But I'll bite---who should I vote for instead?

Yourself of course.

Vote: Witherw---OH WAIT YOU GOT ME

[Ichimaru Gin]

Ninja'd by Awaclus!

But seriously. If I feel like  my vote is bad, I will unvote and stay not voting for awhile until/unless someone else jumps out at me. That's just what I do though.

PPE: WW being funny = scum!WW

[Witherweaver]

Ninja'd by Awaclus!

But seriously. If I feel like  my vote is bad, I will unvote and stay not voting for awhile until/unless someone else jumps out at me. That's just what I do though.

PPE: WW being funny = scum!WW

I've always found that behavior to be suggestive of scum voting for town.  After all, if you're town, you don't know the alignment of the person you're voting for, and votes are generally a good thing.  Unless there is a danger of a quickhammer or something, why worry about leaving your vote?

[Ichimaru Gin]

I never really thought about it that way. Just over the course of all the games I've played, I've noticed that I tend to spend a fair amount of time without my vote on someone.

It's not worry about leaving my vote. I'd just rather be not voting than voting for someone I don't really want to lynch. I find the opposite behavior--leaving your vote on the same person for long periods of time and/or voting for someone you don't really want to lynch--to be more scummy.

[Hydrad]

Hmm this is hard. I find both of you scummy right now but I doubt your a team. Which one is right though.

I think I like Vote: IG a bit more

[Ichimaru Gin]

Hmm this is hard. I find both of you scummy right now but I doubt your a team. Which one is right though.

I think I like Vote: IG a bit more

This sense that WW and I are the only valid places to put your vote at this point intrigues me. What makes you think that we aren't a team? Why do you like your vote on me better than WW?

It's good that something is happening in this game at least.