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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2150 on: November 05, 2014, 05:03:21 pm »

Though I guess.. if it's you, Faust, Jimmm, then Jimmm gets to be kingmaker and you have no choice.

In that situation I refuse to vote anything other than no-lynch and hope they shoot each other.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Night 3 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2151 on: November 06, 2014, 04:42:49 pm »

Vote Count 5.2

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2152 on: November 06, 2014, 05:42:22 pm »

Though I guess.. if it's you, Faust, Jimmm, then Jimmm gets to be kingmaker and you have no choice.

In that situation I refuse to vote anything other than no-lynch and hope they shoot each other.

Okay.  I was just postulating on possible night actions and possible thoughts people would have.

I disagree about Ash's point that mislynching yesterday would be a good thing.  I'm never going to want to mislynch.  (Well, unless I'm scum, obviously.)  Faust flipping Mafia before Eevee died would have made me think Ash was SK because of Night 2 resolution.  Okay, well, I guess if Ash shoots Jimmm and Jimmm commutes we still have 4 people and we're in the same situation here, though now both Eevee and Jimmmm need to choose between Ash and me.  But still, we couldn't guarantee that there would only be one death last night after a mislynch.  I was assuming we lost once Eevee flipped town.

Anyway.. want to share any thoughts, Jimmmm?  I actually don't know how to convince you here, but I'm hoping my general play this game will.  I guess Ash has a point that if I were SK I would have wanted to make sure to lynch Mafia yesterday.  All I can tell you was that I'm town and I put a lot of effort into trying to make sure we didn't mislynch yesterday, whether or not that was ultimately the correct strategy. 

I don't undrstand why Faust didn't Roleblock Ash.  Maybe he thought I was SK.  Or maybe, well.. if he blocks Ash and misses the Jimm kill, then there are no kills and it's me, Ash, Jimm, Faust today.  Faust is 1000% lynched. If he instead shoots me and blocks Ash, then it's Jimm, Faust, Ash, and he has to get Ash lynched, but as Jimmm said he would no lynch.  If he blocks and shoots Ash, then it's Me, Jimm, Faust and Faust is deaders.  So, maybe his only hope was that Ash would choose to shoot town for some reason and he shot Ash*. 

Well, maybe he did Roleblock Ash but Ash used Strongman and it still went through.

*In this case, I do not know what happened Night 2.  The passive BP would not have been used up Night 2, so I can't really explain the lack of kills there.  Unless Ash decided to use active 1-shot BP or 1-shot commute instead of killing.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2153 on: November 06, 2014, 07:27:59 pm »

Thanks for refuting your own N2 argument there.  As mentioned, the N2 argument against me is flimsy at best.  All the narratives where I'm the SK on N2 don't make any sense.

You, though, just shot the wrong guy that night.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2154 on: November 06, 2014, 08:50:22 pm »

I've been following and re-reading. I know which way I'm leaning.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2155 on: November 06, 2014, 09:07:04 pm »

Huh?  That doesn't make sense.  The lack of N2 kills is just as hard to explain if I were SK.

I don't know what happened Night 2.  None of the possibilities really paint a convincing picture.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2156 on: November 06, 2014, 09:35:55 pm »

Man I just remembered how I kept saying this was neither Town Ash or Scum Ash way back on Day 1 or 2.  I didn't connect the dots that SK made the most sense, but my instincts were really on this game.  I don't even think I ever voted for not scum except Eevee.  Oh yeah, I think it was on Silverspawn once because he said something that made me think he was SK, and Jimmmm once, but that was a lurker vote. 

I'm actually happy with how I played, except the not trusting my gut enough to insist Faust yesterday.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2157 on: November 06, 2014, 09:43:56 pm »

I've been following and re-reading. I know which way I'm leaning.

By default you always lean toward lynching me, you know. 
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2158 on: November 06, 2014, 11:28:27 pm »

I've been following and re-reading. I know which way I'm leaning.

By default you always lean toward lynching me, you know.

Not by default, only when you're scummy.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2159 on: November 07, 2014, 01:02:59 am »

I've been following and re-reading. I know which way I'm leaning.

By default you always lean toward lynching me, you know.

Not by default, only when you're scummy.

Pretty sure that is the default.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2160 on: November 07, 2014, 01:05:21 am »

I've been following and re-reading. I know which way I'm leaning.

By default you always lean toward lynching me, you know.

Not by default, only when you're scummy.

Pretty sure that is the default.

Now I'll feel bad if I lynch you. Good job.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2161 on: November 07, 2014, 01:07:27 am »

lol

If it helps, it feels bad to be lynched.

You have to admit, if you were the last scum in a game and could choose your lylo townies, you and me are a great choice.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2162 on: November 07, 2014, 07:54:38 am »

Sooooooooo DAMA....
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2163 on: November 07, 2014, 08:12:34 am »

As stated in the v/la thread, I am leaving today and will be out of town until Tuesday.  I will have internet access but won't be able to check in as much, so I have given the necessary information to people in the speccy to do a flip if necessary while I am away.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2164 on: November 07, 2014, 09:46:18 am »

I've been following and re-reading. I know which way I'm leaning.

By default you always lean toward lynching me, you know.

Not by default, only when you're scummy.

Pretty sure that is the default.

Now I'll feel bad if I lynch you. Good job.

If it helps,  you'll crush all my hopes and dreams if you lynch me.

Also, you'll lose.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Night 3 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2165 on: November 08, 2014, 12:08:06 am »

Vote Count 5.3

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With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch. The deadline for Day 5 will be Friday, November 14, at 5:00 PM forum time.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2166 on: November 08, 2014, 11:06:30 am »

If it helps, you'll crush all my hopes and dreams if you lynch me.

I'm pretty okay with that if you're scum.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2167 on: November 08, 2014, 11:07:46 am »

Anyway sorry, I'm not deliberately stalling. I'll try to have my vote down in the next couple of days.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Night 3 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2168 on: November 09, 2014, 02:36:21 pm »

Vote Count 5.4

ashersky (1): witherweaver
witherweaver (1): ashersky

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With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch. The deadline for Day 5 will be Friday, November 14, at 5:00 PM forum time.

Prods have been issued to WW and Ashersky for 48+ hours of no activity.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2169 on: November 09, 2014, 02:46:10 pm »

Posting because of Prod, but I don't think there's a lot more to say unless Jimmm wants to talk things through.

Though I was thinking, the narrative for me being SK is a huge stretch with:

1) 1 Death Night 1 and Ash being Jailkept
2) 0 Deaths Night 2
3) 1 Death Night 3

(conclusion redacted)... As I was typing up l realized that I could have shot Ash Night 1.  I didn't think about that before.  The point I was going to make is that the 1-shot bulletproof can explain one of the lack of kills, but not more than one.  So that makes Ash being Jailkept stronger evidence for him being SK, since it's another explanation for missing a kill, and those are hard to explain unless you think the SK was not shooting.  The protection part of Jailkeep undermines that a little bit.

 

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2170 on: November 09, 2014, 05:30:10 pm »

I'm also happy to discuss as needed, but not sure what else to say.

WW makes a good point that he shot me night 1.  That's a very likely move by SK!witherweaver.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Night 3 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2171 on: November 10, 2014, 05:29:22 pm »

Vote Count 5.5

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With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch. The deadline for Day 5 will be Friday, November 14, at 5:00 PM forum time.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2172 on: November 10, 2014, 05:34:04 pm »

Goodness me 2 days goes by quickly.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2173 on: November 10, 2014, 05:39:57 pm »

Goodness me 2 days goes by quickly.

You have to learn to stop and lynch the Ashes.  Or smell the roses.  Or however that goes.  But lynch the Ashes.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 5 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #2174 on: November 11, 2014, 03:11:31 am »

Goodness me 2 days goes by quickly.

You have to learn to stop and lynch the Ashes.  Or smell the roses.  Or however that goes.  But lynch the Ashes.

You sound like Gollum.
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