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[XerxesPraelor]

Not tons. I thought about it casually, but I don't tend to devote much time to my targeting choices. You can look at all of the other games where I had a role - I chose this time based on who I would kill.

This sounds insincere coming from someone who decided to mod a RMM game.

What I like about RMM is the cool roles and (more importantly) the effect they have on day play. I'll say it again. Look at dices Mafia, at WOT Mafia, and tell me the same thing isn't happening here.

[XerxesPraelor]

Got to end of day 1 with in my reread.

Current thoughts: XP claimed to be a doctor. A mason who was less active than XP died. That is very suspicious, we should really consider lynching XP hard. Only reason to leave him alive if he is what he claims to be I can think of is if they have a roleblocker and XP's reads are really bad.

Was sudgy really less active than me? Cool.

Also, they could have kept me around to lynch, especially knowing that one of the main people against my lynch (Eevee) would conveniently change their mind (and the lynch almost went through yesterday anyway), and then when I was dead dismiss my reads with Eevee's second point.

[XerxesPraelor]

WW, can I ask you to reconsider Eevee? I haven't re-read him, so this is a pretty barely-formulated case, but his behavior right now (saying over and over again that he's working on a reread but never actually posting anything) is pretty classic scum actilurking. I can't think of a single meaningful contribution he's made this game, at least not since he spotted the mason claim at the very very beginning. He's just sort of been hovering around, seeming towny.

I think he is just legitimately struggling, like the rest of us.

I agree. I think he's struggling to find something towny to do, but is finding it hard for the same reason some of us are plus the fact that he has to make stuff up.

[XerxesPraelor]

WW, can I ask you to reconsider Eevee? I haven't re-read him, so this is a pretty barely-formulated case, but his behavior right now (saying over and over again that he's working on a reread but never actually posting anything) is pretty classic scum actilurking. I can't think of a single meaningful contribution he's made this game, at least not since he spotted the mason claim at the very very beginning. He's just sort of been hovering around, seeming towny.

I mean, yeah, sorry it took me longer than I anticipated, but I reread the entire game to get a better idea. You are basically blaming me for promising to do it faster than I actually did, conveniently forgetting I actually did a full reread to get a better grasp on this.

When I posted you hadn't posted yet. But then you did. I am now feeling quite towny about you.

I think "Eevee is just saying he is going to reread but actually laughing at his beard thinking these schmucks are believing it" is an extremely weak reason to suspect me. Of course I meant to get the reread done, I wouldn't have said I was doing it otherwise, whatever my alignment.

Exactly!

[Voltaire]

Eevee I have less time for mafia now than I used to. I suspect that plays a large part in all the creeping "hmmm Volt" posts I'm seeing.

joth is a bad lynch. Robz is a good lynch!

[liopoil]

Why is robz a good lynch? because he's lurking? if so, that's lame.

[liopoil]

I'm getting worried that eevee is scum and I'm horribly wrong.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Vote Count 2.7

liopoil (1): Robz888
Robz888 (4): XerxesPraelor, SK, jotheonah, Voltaire
jotheonah (2): Witherweaver, Eevee
XerxesPraelor (3): liopoil, Kingzog3, silverspawn

Not Voting (1): Hydrad


With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 ends Sept. 14 at 5pm FT.

[Voltaire]

Why is robz a good lynch? because he's lurking? if so, that's lame.

That was version 1.0 of the case. I'm now on version 2.1c, which includes fake defeatist attitude, lack of a defense, and appeal to "but that's not how I'd play as scum."

[Voltaire]

I'm getting worried that eevee is scum and I'm horribly wrong.

This is a thing that could be a thing but is a thing for tomorrow if needed, in my view.

[XerxesPraelor]

Here's my reads.

Scum

Eevee - (Super scummy everywhere)
KingZog - (Drove the case on me, left it for Eevee today, really needs a reread)

Voltaire - Kind of in the background, posts look self-conscious, basically PoE
Liopoil - Too much agreeing with Eevee ; otherwise would be much scummier
Robz - That was way too obvious scum play for him to actually be scum - or that's what he wants us to think.

WW - Town read, not sure why
Hydrad - ditto (you should be a survivor some time)
Joth - it's amazing how susceptible I am to OMGUS

Town

SK - totally the SK
Me- no, actually I am

[XerxesPraelor]

I'm getting worried that eevee is scum and I'm horribly wrong.

This is a thing that could be a thing but is a thing for tomorrow if needed, in my view.

We must get a mislynch through today!

[XerxesPraelor]

Also, my predicted scumteam is playing it safe - one person on each possible mislynch, to allow for the greatest chance of one getting through.

vote: Eevee

Somehow doing that list made me way surer than I should be able to be; but I am.

[Voltaire]

I'm getting worried that eevee is scum and I'm horribly wrong.

This is a thing that could be a thing but is a thing for tomorrow if needed, in my view.

We must get a mislynch through today!

Agreed. Now stop telling them our plans.

[Voltaire]

What is so scummy about Eevee, exactly? Because for me he's a minor POE only if something has gone wrong somewhere else, which is entirely possible and probably probable but not helpful until we learn more one way or another.

[liopoil]

Why is robz a good lynch? because he's lurking? if so, that's lame.

That was version 1.0 of the case. I'm now on version 2.1c, which includes fake defeatist attitude, lack of a defense, and appeal to "but that's not how I'd play as scum."

he does have a defeatist attitude, lack of defense, and appeal to "but that's not how I'd play as scum". As far as I know, that's what he does as town, not scum. What makes you think it is fake? I think it could be fake too, but I really can't tell.

Liopoil - Too much agreeing with Eevee ; otherwise would be much scummier

Eevee's the one agreeing with me!

Why do you keep claiming town?

[liopoil]

I'm getting worried that eevee is scum and I'm horribly wrong.

This is a thing that could be a thing but is a thing for tomorrow if needed, in my view.

Fair, but joth said that yesterday about XP, sort of.

[KingZog3]

I'm not leaving the case for Eevee to make this time, I just havn't made the case for myself yet! Classes just started for me, and as I'm in first year I'm still getting the hang of stuff, running around buying supplies for classes and such. I may not have time to make an entire case this day. liopoil made a really good post against you XP, and if you noticed, it was that which I agreed with and nothing Eevee said. My vote was in before he posted about you today.

[Voltaire]

Why is robz a good lynch? because he's lurking? if so, that's lame.

That was version 1.0 of the case. I'm now on version 2.1c, which includes fake defeatist attitude, lack of a defense, and appeal to "but that's not how I'd play as scum."

he does have a defeatist attitude, lack of defense, and appeal to "but that's not how I'd play as scum". As far as I know, that's what he does as town, not scum. What makes you think it is fake? I think it could be fake too, but I really can't tell.

Because the timing of everything, along with D1, is just too damn perfect this time. It's different, and I can't explain it better than that.

[KingZog3]

Liopoil - Too much agreeing with Eevee ; otherwise would be much scummier

Eevee's the one agreeing with me!

And I'm agreeing with liopoil too.

[Voltaire]

I'm getting worried that eevee is scum and I'm horribly wrong.

This is a thing that could be a thing but is a thing for tomorrow if needed, in my view.

Fair, but joth said that yesterday about XP, sort of.

When?

[Eevee]

Eevee I have less time for mafia now than I used to. I suspect that plays a large part in all the creeping "hmmm Volt" posts I'm seeing.

joth is a bad lynch. Robz is a good lynch!

That's fine. But you must understand  you'll be suspect to PoE unless you convince others you are town. No one is seeming scummy, I have to turn to look at the people I have a townier read for generally making sense and agreeing with me, because scum has to be somewhere.

[Eevee]

Why is robz a good lynch? because he's lurking? if so, that's lame.

I mean yeah, the case on Robz is so lackluster. He is either apathetic town, or faking to be apathetic town. Sure, same reasons that apply to WW and Voltaire  apply to Robz to an extent. Someone must be scum, so if no one is seeming super scummy, you have to start rethinking the town reads you have for weaker reasons, such as this. But man, this is not how Robz would play scum often, so while the fact that he is playing like this doesn't absolve him from being scum, it does make it significantly less likely, so.

[Eevee]

Of course, with good players, it's hard to nail scum before the first scum flip, that's just how it is. I'm actually hoping Hydrad would have gotten a shot through yesterday.

[Eevee]

Why is robz a good lynch? because he's lurking? if so, that's lame.

That was version 1.0 of the case. I'm now on version 2.1c, which includes fake defeatist attitude, lack of a defense, and appeal to "but that's not how I'd play as scum."

All things that make perfectly sense to do as town too. It's frustrating, but lynch mafia, not scum.