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[Witherweaver]

Sudgy, was the "legitimate reasons" for Silverspawn a joke, or did was that a real vote?

[Witherweaver]

I'm tempted to agree with Eevee here. I'm just going to quote all of sudgy's posts so far in a row.

Wait, so WW, are you a mason or not?

Vote: silverspawn.  I have my legitimate reasons.

Vote: KingZog3 for the OMGUS vote.

Kingzog, what's your previous mafia experience like?

I've played Werewolf IRL, which is nearly the same thing, with a couple extra roles and a different flavour. Although it's been a very long time since I've played it. I've read some of the wiki, and I'm in general not super dumb.

Okay. The two common pitfalls are haphazard claiming and quickhammering without giving the subject time to decide whether he wants to claim.

Well I haven't claimed anything. Was that quickhammering? I voted for Voltaire because he voted for me, not really a reason. Which is why I unvoted.

quickhammering is when you hammer someone (place the final vote for them to be lynched) before giving them ample time to respond.

I'm still keeping my vote on you for your OMGUS.  You haven't said anything in defense even.

It's an OMGUS vote.  Of course it screams mafia.

Sudgy/SK scumteam??

...How in the world does what's happened implicate that?  Vote: XerxesPraelor, my first real vote.

So, sudgy's "first real vote" isn't just his third vote (in 5 posts). It also follows his vote on KingZog, which he reiterates twice and demands a defense for. Now, how on earth is a vote, with a reason, that you reiterate twice and ask for a defense for, not a real vote?

This is scum play: casting about for a wagon until one sticks, and then downplaying past efforts after the fact so it doesn't look like he's doing that.

vote: sudgy

Scum really looks for a wagon to stick during the first real day or two of game?

[jotheonah]

Scum really looks for a wagon to stick during the first real day or two of game?

Well, a lot of time scum just lurks around waiting for a wagon to form and jumps on it. But when the wagon forms on you that's not an option. Also scum is prone to get impatient waiting for that to happen.

[Witherweaver]

Scum really looks for a wagon to stick during the first real day or two of game?

Well, a lot of time scum just lurks around waiting for a wagon to form and jumps on it. But when the wagon forms on you that's not an option. Also scum is prone to get impatient waiting for that to happen.

But there wasn't even time to get impatient.

[chairs]

Sudgy, I'll let you make the call.

Please hurry, I'm impatient.

 

[Voltaire]

Sudgy, I'll let you make the call.

Please hurry, I'm impatient.

 

wut chairs said

[KingZog3]

Sudgy, I'll let you make the call.

Please hurry, I'm impatient.

 

wut chairs said

Why are you so impatient SK? It's not like the deadline is any time soon.

[Eevee]

Sudgy, I'll let you make the call.

Please hurry, I'm impatient.

 

wut chairs said

Why are you so impatient SK? It's not like the deadline is any time soon.

Because they are masons and it's exciting.

[silverspawn]

isn't waiting for the first reasonable chance to attack someone, and then going really strong, scummy also?

[Twistedarcher]

Hi everyone! I've read the thread but honestly not a super lot of thoughts thus far.

[Witherweaver]

Sudgy, I'll let you make the call.

Please hurry, I'm impatient.

 

wut chairs said

Why are you so impatient SK? It's not like the deadline is any time soon.

Because they are masons and it's exciting.

Ha. 

[Eevee]

isn't waiting for the first reasonable chance to attack someone, and then going really strong, scummy also?

That sounds like good town play to me. If no one is willing to do anything, we'll just twiddle our thumbs until the deadline. Applying pressure is the best way to generate interactions that generate reads.

[Twistedarcher]

Did I miss a mason claim? Ww and sudgy? I see several references but no claims.

Who are masons? And why did you claim so early d1?

[Witherweaver]

I guess the reason nobody realized mine was a joke right away is that Masons actually can be in this setup.  I wasn't aware of that at the time.

[Eevee]

Did I miss a mason claim? Ww and sudgy? I see several references but no claims.

Who are masons? And why did you claim so early d1?

SK and sudgy. SK got worried about sudgy's wagon.

It's not confirmed, but looks relatively certain.

[Eevee]

Sudgy, I'll let you make the call.

Please hurry, I'm impatient.

These came immediately after joth dropped the 5th vote on sudgy.

I'd add that it probably wasn't obvious to SK that what he did was basically the same thing as claiming.

Uh, unvote too.

[Twistedarcher]

Did I miss a mason claim? Ww and sudgy? I see several references but no claims.

Who are masons? And why did you claim so early d1?

SK and sudgy. SK got worried about sudgy's wagon.

It's not confirmed, but looks relatively certain.

Ok, we can wait for confirmation but I'd believe it. Probably came out too early if thats what it was but not much you can do at this point. Masons are very strong.

[Eevee]

Yeah, it looks extremely believable, of course.

[silverspawn]

wait, i don't get it. what's with the unintentional mason claim?

[chairs]

Confirming it looks remarkably like implied-claim masons.

[jotheonah]

Masons are confirmed town to each other, right? Neighbors are the ones who can chat but could also be scum?

[Hydrad]

well at least this game is starting up now. One thing I'm thinking. if SK and sudgy are masons does that make eevee scum for pointing it out to see if hes right? If hes town would he try and keep quiet if he thought they were masons?

[Hydrad]

Masons are confirmed town to each other, right? Neighbors are the ones who can chat but could also be scum?

Yes i believe masons are confirmed town to each other.

[Eevee]

wait, i don't get it. what's with the unintentional mason claim?

SK and sudgy are masons, that's their role. They are confirmed town to each other. Sudgy got up to 5 votes, SK got scared he might get lynched, and ask sudgy if they should claim to prevent that. What he probably didn't realize was, that asking that question was the as claiming, because this setup is open and masons is the only linked role available.

This is all pending their comments of course, but I'm relatively certain.

[Eevee]

well at least this game is starting up now. One thing I'm thinking. if SK and sudgy are masons does that make eevee scum for pointing it out to see if hes right? If hes town would he try and keep quiet if he thought they were masons?

I think everyone who has ever played with masons must have caught that.