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[chairs]

Has mail mi posted?  I'm wondering if he used his prize.

okay so I'm just going to come out and claim this now: the prize was a bit mediocre. It allowed me to spy on any other frat, and I had to use it before the halfway point of D1. So, PNK, I've been spying on you.

Yeah, we know.

How did you know?

This, so much.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not saying that Yuma's reads aren't worth analyzing but I'm willing to bet that him being a Dayvig was a bigger factor in him being the NK.

Well, yes, but a someone that thought Yuma had a scum read on them might want to get rid of him to avoid getting vig'd. 

But Yuma's reads are worth considering because he has decent reads.  I don't think there was any kind of misdirection or ulterior motive there.. I think he predicted he might die during the night, so he wanted to get any last thoughts out during twilight. 

[Witherweaver]

Why is Faust IC-ish?

I think this was Axxle thinking that Yuma's action was a night action, that Yuma would target Faust (because of a scum read on him), and Yuma was therefore killed because Faust was town.  (Yuma's role was a dayvig that backfired and killed himself if he did not target scum.)  I think Axxle recanted it once it was pointed out that Yuma's ability was day only.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Has mail mi posted?  I'm wondering if he used his prize.

okay so I'm just going to come out and claim this now: the prize was a bit mediocre. It allowed me to spy on any other frat, and I had to use it before the halfway point of D1. So, PNK, I've been spying on you.

Yeah, we know.

How did you know?

This, so much.

ash said something like someone is probably in the house and gave us another QT.

[Axxle]

intent to vote teproc

[Witherweaver]

Has mail mi posted?  I'm wondering if he used his prize.

okay so I'm just going to come out and claim this now: the prize was a bit mediocre. It allowed me to spy on any other frat, and I had to use it before the halfway point of D1. So, PNK, I've been spying on you.

Yeah, we know.

How did you know?

This, so much.

ash said something like someone is probably in the house and gave us another QT.

Wait, so Mail-Mi gets an item that lets him spy on a house.  He chooses your house.  Then Ash tells everyone in your house that you have a spy and to use another QT? (I suppose through PM's.) That seems to kind of defeat the purpose of spying.

I guess it's easy to verify, though.  And this makes what Axxle was saying make a little more sense.

[Robz888]

Would love some Doctor protection, by the way.

[chairs]

Has mail mi posted?  I'm wondering if he used his prize.

okay so I'm just going to come out and claim this now: the prize was a bit mediocre. It allowed me to spy on any other frat, and I had to use it before the halfway point of D1. So, PNK, I've been spying on you.

Yeah, we know.

How did you know?

This, so much.

ash said something like someone is probably in the house and gave us another QT.

Wait, so Mail-Mi gets an item that lets him spy on a house.  He chooses your house.  Then Ash tells everyone in your house that you have a spy and to use another QT? (I suppose through PM's.) That seems to kind of defeat the purpose of spying.

I guess it's easy to verify, though.  And this makes what Axxle was saying make a little more sense.

Actually, that gives me some ideas.

[faust]

I realized I hadn't posted here yet. Well, not much to say. We should follow Robz here for sure. I have no reason to think Teproc is town.

I can confirm the infiltration of our sorority. I was inclined to think that the person going for the prize tonight might be scum, because it's an anti-town prize, but it turns out that problem solved itself. Still, seriously guys, read the mod posts, they're important. I will not accept excuses like that in the future. Slight FOS on mail-mi for that.

We should also note that scum can always talk during the Scare Games. That means tonight, scum could talk to more people to solve the riddle, and thus they're more likely to win.

[faust]

Robz, why did you claim your result right at the beginning, though? You killed all other wagons and interactions we could have had today.

[Robz888]

Robz, why did you claim your result right at the beginning, though? You killed all other wagons and interactions we could have had today.

Sorry. As far as I can recall, I have *never* received an incriminating night result in 50 mafia games. I was super excited. And since I'm currently traveling and have unsteady access, I wanted to just get the revelation out of the way.

[EFHW]

I don't understand the decision not to go for the lynchproof prize.  Wouldn't town prefer to have control of it, so you would try to get it if you could?  How was that decision made (who said what?)

[Axxle]

I don't understand the decision not to go for the lynchproof prize.  Wouldn't town prefer to have control of it, so you would try to get it if you could?  How was that decision made (who said what?)

If no one went for it no one would have it.

[Witherweaver]

I don't understand the decision not to go for the lynchproof prize.  Wouldn't town prefer to have control of it, so you would try to get it if you could?  How was that decision made (who said what?)

If no one went for it no one would have it.

How do you know this?  He may have just awarded it randomly.

[Axxle]

I don't understand the decision not to go for the lynchproof prize.  Wouldn't town prefer to have control of it, so you would try to get it if you could?  How was that decision made (who said what?)

If no one went for it no one would have it.

How do you know this?  He may have just awarded it randomly.

We were told we were competing to win it, if we don't win it we don't get it. There wasn't any rule about what happens if no one wins it.

Vote: Teproc

[Witherweaver]

I don't understand the decision not to go for the lynchproof prize.  Wouldn't town prefer to have control of it, so you would try to get it if you could?  How was that decision made (who said what?)

If no one went for it no one would have it.

How do you know this?  He may have just awarded it randomly.

We were told we were competing to win it, if we don't win it we don't get it. There wasn't any rule about what happens if no one wins it.

Vote: Teproc

Well, first competition was best-score-wins, I would think this one was closest-submission-wins.  If no one submitted anything, it would be like three people tying, and there's probably some way to determine ties.

Why do you want to vote for Teproc now?  Do you disagree with Arch's warning?

[Axxle]

I don't really think we'll get much more out of today and others can unvote if they really want.

Why didn't you mention anything when I stated intent to vote?

[Witherweaver]

I don't really think we'll get much more out of today and others can unvote if they really want.

Why didn't you mention anything when I stated intent to vote?

I had assumed you were stating intent so that you hard a record down that you were in to vote, but were going to wait until we're ready to proceed.. at least an okay from the IC's.  It's only been about a day and there are a handfull of people that haven't posted much.

[Witherweaver]

Unvote

[Axxle]

at least an okay from the IC's.

NO!

The ICs are NOT the gods of this game. They're confirmed town, sure, but that just means that we can trust them not to manipulate us. That does not mean their opinions should dictate EVERYTHING we do.

I mean look at yesterday. There was so much waiting for IC permission before they pursued anything that we completely flailed at the deadline.

If *you* want the day to go longer say it. Don't hide behind an IC.

[Axxle]

[Witherweaver]

But we can trust that the IC's opinion will be what they legitimately think is in our best interest.  We can't think that of anyone else.  So it makes sense to take their ideas into consideration.  I'm not saying blindly follow them, but something like not ending today after less than 24 hours seems very reasonable. 

Chairs' last message was "Actually, that gives me some ideas."  There may have been something he wanted to pursue today.

[Witherweaver]

And not just the IC's.  Archetype and Faust have barely posted.  Other people might want to reread.  Teproc reads to me like someone who knows he's caught, in which case quickhammering himself might be a good choice.

[chairs]

But we can trust that the IC's opinion will be what they legitimately think is in our best interest.  We can't think that of anyone else.  So it makes sense to take their ideas into consideration.  I'm not saying blindly follow them, but something like not ending today after less than 24 hours seems very reasonable. 

Chairs' last message was "Actually, that gives me some ideas."  There may have been something he wanted to pursue today.

Well... basically it makes my read on mail-mi a bit more leaning towards town.

[Witherweaver]

But we can trust that the IC's opinion will be what they legitimately think is in our best interest.  We can't think that of anyone else.  So it makes sense to take their ideas into consideration.  I'm not saying blindly follow them, but something like not ending today after less than 24 hours seems very reasonable. 

Chairs' last message was "Actually, that gives me some ideas."  There may have been something he wanted to pursue today.

Well... basically it makes my read on mail-mi a bit more leaning towards town.

Why is this?