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[Robz888]

I do!

[ashersky]

Teproc was right on track at the very beginning, and his willingness to listen to others and switch to mcmc is something we're all sorely lacking as "sure" town.

I mean, Robz and Arch (and TA) did really well.  All of town was great.  Teproc stood out to me as the mod watching the game.

[Teproc]

Do people still love this setup?

Best setup ever.

@Robz : It was intentional : I was trying not to be lynched !

[Jimmmmm]

Do people still love this setup?

I do. Blitz is still hard for me due to time differences though.

[Robz888]

Teproc was right on track at the very beginning, and his willingness to listen to others and switch to mcmc is something we're all sorely lacking as "sure" town.

I mean, Robz and Arch (and TA) did really well.  All of town was great.  Teproc stood out to me as the mod watching the game.

But I think recognizing that Teproc was town, as Arch and I did, is demonstrating better play than Teproc acting townie.

But that's fine with me. Just glad to win.

[Teproc]

I agree with Robz, Arch would probably be my choice here. But I don't care, I'm never going to get a scum MVP, so I'll take a town one !

[Robz888]

I'm starting to feel like I am actually good at being town. I have lynched a whole lot of scum lately.

[Teproc]

mcmc in the scum QT :

"Teproc - great reads on me"

Ahem. I have great reads on you when you're town ! Which I'm never going to believe again !

[ashersky]

Spectator MVP: yuma

He PMed me the entire scum team like 20 posts into the game.

[Archetype]

Do people still love this setup?

Still rocks!

[mail-mi]

Heh. Heh. Yeah sorry I was kind of busy starting wot mafia.

[ashersky]

yuma, was the flavor good enough for you as far as Ender goes?

[Teproc]

I've read the Ender cycle as well. I didn't pay a lot of attention to it though, let's take a look.

[ashersky]

I've read the Ender cycle as well. I didn't pay a lot of attention to it though, let's take a look.

This is basically set at Battle School before Ender was born, and with made up bad guys.

Actually, it's anachronistic, because no one knews the formics could communicate, so having "formic controlled" humans doesn't make sense before Ender destoys them anyway.  And even then, formics couldn't control humans so much as just have them on their side.

[EFHW]

Fie on you all!  Take that!  and that!  You are all now free floating completely frozen in zero gravity miles from the wall. 

This was my first time with this setup, and I did not fully appreciate how crucial the first day is.  Basically, whichever team lost a player Day 1 would have a very hard time winning. 

[Twistedarcher]

Fie on you all!  Take that!  and that!  You are all now free floating completely frozen in zero gravity miles from the wall. 

This was my first time with this setup, and I did not fully appreciate how crucial the first day is.  Basically, whichever team lost a player Day 1 would have a very hard time winning.

You have played this setup before! When spirit bears and nkirbit were ics!

[Twistedarcher]

I love the setup but feel its very tilted towards town. They have a 50% chance of winning on random lynch and will likely do better than random.

[ashersky]

Fie on you all!  Take that!  and that!  You are all now free floating completely frozen in zero gravity miles from the wall. 

This was my first time with this setup, and I did not fully appreciate how crucial the first day is.  Basically, whichever team lost a player Day 1 would have a very hard time winning.

I don't recall if we've had a team lose a player on D1 and win.  Maybe.

If you get the mislynch here (say Teproc), you're still at lylo with an IC alive, so you have 2 VT vs 2 scum.  It's really hard.

This ends up with a lot of flawless victories.

[Teproc]

Is the name of the insect guys really the "formics" in English ? Ugh. I read them in French because my English wasn't good enough back then (I must have been 13 or something), I like the French name a lot better (Doryphores).

I think it works fine, although I might have had the ICs be authority figures. Or have the IC be Ender himself, the whole point is that his innocence is what allows him to get things right although I suppose that doesn't work with two ICs. I'm realizing now that I don't remember many details about the books, I should probably see the movie at some point.

[nkirbit]

Fie on you all!  Take that!  and that!  You are all now free floating completely frozen in zero gravity miles from the wall. 

This was my first time with this setup, and I did not fully appreciate how crucial the first day is.  Basically, whichever team lost a player Day 1 would have a very hard time winning.

Sorry, EFHW!  I came back and read the thread, and didn't know what the hell to do, and was still thinking about a plan when they lynched me!

[EFHW]

Fie on you all!  Take that!  and that!  You are all now free floating completely frozen in zero gravity miles from the wall. 

This was my first time with this setup, and I did not fully appreciate how crucial the first day is.  Basically, whichever team lost a player Day 1 would have a very hard time winning.

You have played this setup before! When spirit bears and nkirbit were ics!

There is a faint remnant of a memory there.  I guess I was town?

Town has better than 50/50 chance if you think about the 3 VT's actually having a 60% chance of lynching correctly.

[Teproc]

I love the setup but feel its very tilted towards town. They have a 50% chance of winning on random lynch and will likely do better than random.

Yeah, I agree, I think this setup favors town... but I think a lot of our regular setups favor scum, so I'm fine with it.

[EFHW]

Fie on you all!  Take that!  and that!  You are all now free floating completely frozen in zero gravity miles from the wall. 

This was my first time with this setup, and I did not fully appreciate how crucial the first day is.  Basically, whichever team lost a player Day 1 would have a very hard time winning.

Sorry, EFHW!  I came back and read the thread, and didn't know what the hell to do, and was still thinking about a plan when they lynched me!

Me too.  I reread it, and threw up my hands in despair.

[ashersky]

I love the setup but feel its very tilted towards town. They have a 50% chance of winning on random lynch and will likely do better than random.

I've run it 6 times and it's split 3/3.  Both times SFS ran it, the mafia won.

So it feels tilted, but remember:

--2 ICs have worse reads than everyone else mathematically
--daychat is strong, especially if they can coordinate hammers

Delayed IC announcements strengthens town too much.  ICs being Masons is basically delayed IC annoucements with extra chatting, which strengthens town too much.  Scum choosing ICs add too much politics to the game, I think.  Those have been modifications we've tried.

I think the original, which I didn't create of course, is still the best.  Could it be improved?  Probably.  We just haven't found out how yet.

[yuma]

Spectator MVP: yuma

He PMed me the entire scum team like 20 posts into the game.

 

yuma, was the flavor good enough for you as far as Ender goes?

I thought so, yes!