Isn't it unusual for yuma to be advancing a plan by the way ? I thought he was usually anti-claim ? I think it's scummy here because the plan looks horrible to me and has already prompted people to say too much, as well as the fact that it distracts from scumhunting, but I wonder what that should tell me about yuma.
vote: teproc
This post looks like teproc is trying to find a way to justify his "policy vote" with a pseudo-real reason.
My vote on you was not a policy vote. I voted for you because I believe the plan you proposed :
1) Had no chance of being followed
2) Got people to talk about things they shouldn't talk about
The post you're quoting here is just me realizing that you talking about theory might be unusual, and asking about it to the crowd of people who have more games with you. And then stating the reasons I was voting for you for clarity's sake.
Regardless of your alignment, your stance of "claiming is bad ALWAYS" is wrong. It should be "claiming is bad most of the time, it is worth some discussion to find out unless it is blatantly obvious that there is no benefit" but that is a lot longer to type out so I can understand why you woulnd't want it as your motto. Could I suggest an acronym? CIBMOTTISWSDTFOUIIBOTTISNB? Yeah, that is pretty long too.
This is not my stance at all. I'm not against claiming, I'm against theory talk on day 1. I think plans can be useful on later days, and I would say the theory talk we had in day2 of GoT would have been very good if the setup had been right.
DWII is not the only game that led me to this. DoP is the other one, in that it convinced me that plans on D1 will simply not be followed, even if they're good. I think the rolling numbers thing was a good plan then, but people kept misunderstanding it.
Genuine question : how many times has a plan been executed on f.ds day 1 ? In a normal game I mean ? Mafia XXX is the only one that comes to mind. And sure, that was an example of a great plan that worked perfectly. But how many games have been lost because people don't have the energy to reread or because someone VT slipped which helped scum kill the PRs ?
Scott_pilgrim has a point that my opposition to theory talk has probably cluttered up the thread, which is obviously pretty awful, but I guess we've got a wagon now, so that's good at least.