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[Axxle]

I'm becoming partial to a shraeye lynch just so I don't get mislynched tomorrow.

[Axxle]

I'm debating how much my own lynch would help, actually. Let me think about that for a bit.

[shraeye]

A lot.  For one, the game would be over.  Let's do it.

[pingpongsam]

A lot.  For one, the game would be over.  Let's do it.

Certainty is blinding. I don't even find it necessarily scummy.
Robz was certain on mcmc and he wasn't scum.
I was damned certain about ADK and then he turned out to be one of our best PRs ripe for NK because he was forced to claim; and I'm not scum.

Hell, now that I type this out I'm starting to think that it's the less certain players who may be more likely to be scum... I think I just WIFOM'd myself.

[Robz888]

I need to re-read shraeye. If I'm satisfied he's town, I want to lynch PPS, with the understanding that Axxle will be tomorrow's lynch.

[shraeye]

I'm debating how much my own lynch would help, actually. Let me think about that for a bit.

So who do you think should be lynched?

[ashersky]

Vote Count 4.4:

Axxle (1) : shraeye
PPS (1): Axxle

Not Voting (4):  scott_pilgrim, Robz888, mail-mi, PPS

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 ends on March 25 at 8:00 a.m.

[Axxle]

I'm debating how much my own lynch would help, actually. Let me think about that for a bit.

So who do you think should be lynched?

Vote Count 4.4:

Axxle (1) : shraeye
PPS (1): Axxle

Not Voting (4):  scott_pilgrim, Robz888, mail-mi, PPS

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 ends on March 25 at 8:00 a.m.

[Axxle]

I'm debating how much my own lynch would help, actually. Let me think about that for a bit.

So who do you think should be lynched?

If you mean whether I should lynch myself or not the jury's still out.  I'll consult with Axxle2 later tonight.

[shraeye]

This is nonsense; who is scummy in your eyes?  simple question.

[Axxle]

PPS and scott.

I've had bad feelings about you all game but I attribute that to you tunneling me.

[shraeye]

ok.  So you're saying that outside of you, and obv-ICs Robz/Mail-mi, everybody looks scummy.  And you're even CONSIDERING the option that lynching yourself would work from a Axxle-is-town perspective?  That's double-nonsense.

Pure facade.

[Axxle]

ok.  So you're saying that outside of you, and obv-ICs Robz/Mail-mi, everybody looks scummy.  And you're even CONSIDERING the option that lynching yourself would work from a Axxle-is-town perspective?  That's double-nonsense.

Pure facade.

If I 100% am getting mislynched tomorrow, being mislynched today instead might be a valid option.

[mail-mi]

Note, I RB shraeye N1 and the kill still went through, so he should be less suspicious.

My list before reread: PPS>Scotty>Axxle>Shraeye>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mail-mi/robz

[Robz888]

Note, I RB shraeye N1 and the kill still went through, so he should be less suspicious.

My list before reread: PPS>Scotty>Axxle>Shraeye>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mail-mi/robz

That is true. Makes me feel better about the lynch PPS and then Axxle plan

[scott_pilgrim]

I just finished rereading D1 and these two posts stuck out to me:

What's the argument on scott again? Because I don't want to lynch raerae just for being raerae.

No... unvote.

I don't like being behind shraeye... Are we sure we don't want to lynch him?

back to vote: scott unless we can lynch shraeye, I am more sure about him than I am about raerae

And here it is.  He claimed to want to vote for raerae and still has raerae as a scum read, but chooses not to put her to L-1.  you know that if you voted for her, somebody would hammer that.  You're the deciding vote, and you're deciding not to lynch her...DESPITE your read on her.  That's shenanigans.  Raerae being sassy is not indicative of her being town, It's indicative of her being raerae.  And you should know that.  You're just grabbing at flimsy reasons not to Lynch your partner.  I'm calling it here and now.

Raerae and yuma are partners, 200%.

I'm pretty sure yuma townslipped earlier though...

Someone hammer, please.

Has she claimed?

No, but raerae doesn't claim.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

As for the slip:

Oh, you're right.  I should probably just hope on whatever bandwagon forms next and plunk my vote there. 

Yep that is exactly what I said...

Now that we have gotten our passive aggressive sarcasm out of the way.... Seriously though. Look at it this way. There are 3 mafia to 10 town. It takes 7 to lynch. If you are town and if you are just keeping your vote on Andrew then town has one less vote to utilize in finding scum. I know you think that Andrew is scum. He might be, he might not be. But the fact of the matter is that he isn't getting lynched today... So your vote is in effect "not voting" for purposes of finding a lynch. This is all stuff you already know, so I dont' even know why I am saying it.... but I will say it anyways... And no I am not saying just plunk your vote down onto a wagon. But analyze the wagons see who you find the most likely to be scum and usefully and effectively place your vote on someone. I am pretty sure you already knew that I was effectively saying this above, but here it is again spelled out for you.

"3 mafia to 10 town" - I doubt scum would make this mistake.
This whole post feels pretty town to me, treating raerae as town even if she's a scum read. I don't think scum would do that with their partner. From his posts since 324 I see a natural strong scumread progress to a weak enough read to want to pursue others. His lack of tunneling is pretty town.

Now that we know yuma was scum his townslip is interesting.  Either he really did forget the set-up, or he faked it for towncred.  Axxle pointing it out isn't necessarily scummy, but if he is scum he certainly wouldn't want to let that one get away (regardless of whether it was intentional or not).  So it's something to consider.

Right now I'm at:

Axxle>PPS>>>Shraeye>>>>>>>>>>>>mail-mi>>Robz>me

I think as long as we lynch both Axxle and PPS we will win.

[pingpongsam]

Well, here we are back to that Axxle or PPS dichotomy that leaves me with no other thing to do than Vote: Axxle.

Flip me if you want, I don't see that there is anything left to this game if it just flip one guy then the other. If Axxle is also town then kudos to the remaining scum and if it's Robz then shame on everybody except Robz.

[Axxle]

Well, here we are back to that Axxle or PPS dichotomy that leaves me with no other thing to do than Vote: Axxle.

Flip me if you want, I don't see that there is anything left to this game if it just flip one guy then the other. If Axxle is also town then kudos to the remaining scum and if it's Robz then shame on everybody except Robz.

Can you stop it with the Robz.  He was roleblocked last night.

[pingpongsam]

Unless the RB was RB'd...

[Axxle]

I see it all now. Shraeye being hypersensitive to his partners scum tells decides that he has to bus them or be super obvious about it. Then he tunnels on the most mislynched player in all of f.ds (not an exaggeration), sets up a doc claim, no kills tonight, and coasts to victory. Lynch me today if you want but lynch shraeye, not pps. He's town.

vote:shraeye

[Axxle]

I was planning on going to lylo with Scott and voting the other guy but now I don't need to.

[Robz888]

I have started re-reading AGAIN, please don't do anything rash.

I hate the feeling that the speccies are just watching me obliterate what seemed like a guaranteed win two short days ago.

[Axxle]

Thanks robz, appreciate it. I know I don't put that much effort into the game.

Ib4: look how buddy buddy axxles being!

[pingpongsam]

Unvote

[shraeye]

I see it all now. Shraeye being hypersensitive to his partners scum tells decides that he has to bus them or be super obvious about it. Then he tunnels on the most mislynched player in all of f.ds (not an exaggeration), sets up a doc claim, no kills tonight, and coasts to victory. Lynch me today if you want but lynch shraeye, not pps. He's town.

vote:shraeye

Ok, so we lynch you, and if there are no kills tonight, everybody is allowed to be ultra suspicious of me.  In this case, there would still be able to lynch you, me, AND PPS.  So everybody is happy.  Everybody except you, yuma, and raerae.