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[AndrewisFTTW]

Notice that you didn't vote for me until you asked me if shraeye was scum or not. I gave you a newbie indirect answer and a more firm direct answer and it didn't matter anyway. I also don't like the way you handled almost being lynched and this clear stretching the truth of what actually happy isn't so great either.

[AndrewisFTTW]

"What actually happened" is what I meant, of course.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Well Axxle, I'm glad you asked.  Yuma is being loud and all over the place.  As someone else mentioned who I don't remember at the moment he does seem to be avoiding the raerae wagon. If raerae flips scum it's a very real possibility that yuma's her partner. That said I don't think raerae's scum and yuma's just trying to avoid being on the mislynch wagon.

wait...

Vote: yuma

That seems most likely.

Avoiding the raerae wagon?

You mean the wagon that I basically built the case on that for some bizarre reason has completely stalled and is going no where?

Maybe you should go back and pay more attention before you vote for someone. I don't care if you are drunk when you do.

But more importantly is that I am seeing that shraeye himself didn't contradict Axxle on this false premise (as it was shraeye putting forward the supposition about me that Axxle erroneously attributed his vote to). This indicates to me that shraeye doesn't care why people vote for me as long as they do... Something I think scum would think far more than town as scum only wants to get someone lynched that they know to be town. Town is looking for scum, make sure who they are voting for is in fact scum and wants to figure out the alignment of others at the same time...

Yes.

[Axxle]

We have 2 days

[yuma]

Oh, you're right.  I should probably just hope on whatever bandwagon forms next and plunk my vote there. 

Yep that is exactly what I said...

Now that we have gotten our passive aggressive sarcasm out of the way.... Seriously though. Look at it this way. There are 3 mafia to 10 town. It takes 7 to lynch. If you are town and if you are just keeping your vote on Andrew then town has one less vote to utilize in finding scum. I know you think that Andrew is scum. He might be, he might not be. But the fact of the matter is that he isn't getting lynched today... So your vote is in effect "not voting" for purposes of finding a lynch. This is all stuff you already know, so I dont' even know why I am saying it.... but I will say it anyways... And no I am not saying just plunk your vote down onto a wagon. But analyze the wagons see who you find the most likely to be scum and usefully and effectively place your vote on someone. I am pretty sure you already knew that I was effectively saying this above, but here it is again spelled out for you.

[yuma]

I'm fine with Axxle voting for scum for false premise.  I've got no need to correct him.  In fact, the reason I'm voting for you is that you felt the need to correct false info that PPS was saying about raerae, which may have caused people to vote raerae, despite the fact that you "say" that raerae is scum and that you have no idea why her wagon is bizarrely fizzling.

This just reinforced my vote on you. Axxle called you out on false premises; if I correct him, I'm hypocritical.  If I don't correct him, you try to peg me for scum because "scum would do that more often than town, because they're just looking for a lynch." A classic no-win scenario, as you've painted it.  However, the second case has a false conclusion, and people who know my meta should understand that.  This is definitely something town-shraeye does.  I'm a self-acknowledged case-inflater.  If I think somebody is scum, I will do absolutely everything I can to get them lynched.  And if somebody is voting for scum for the wrong pretenses, I'm absolutely fine with that.

Then it appears that you are voting for me for playing a different style then you.... I will obviously say that it is a superior style for town. Making sure I am on the right--or as right as you can get with limited information--wagon, probing players to get reads out and doing re-reads arguing against bad reasoning or anything else. Whereas it appears you just want to get me lynched to the detriment of town. But hey I am biased...

[yuma]

speaking of which... shraeye you have pretty much ignored everything I have asked you to elaborate on...

I looked at what you were "confused" about (or at least one post where you claimed to be confused).  It still looks pretty straightforward to me.  I'll elaborate when I feel I need to.

Thanks for being so helpful, considerate and nice to play with.

(I guess I wasn't done with the passive aggressive sarcasm after all)

[Axxle]

unvote

[yuma]

We have 2 days

Yep....

7.  Players may request a prod after 24 hours without a post.

Prod Request on: Eevee, scott, Robz, ADK, PPS, mail-mi and mcmc all haven't posted in the last 24 hours. Some are at or above 48 hours...

[yuma]

although both PPS and Eevee have announced VLA so nevermind there

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm here, I'll do a reread and give a reads list before I go to bed tonight.

[Eevee]

fwiw I've been reading and like where my vote is.

[scott_pilgrim]

I'm here.  I think I like the raerae lynch (I'm assuming no one else wants to vote Robz yet since no one has done so for several days).  I don't like the way she's been acting but I also think we get some information from her flip.  vote: raerae I think that's L-3 but I was wrong about that last time so someone else should check before getting close to a lynch.

[Eevee]

I oppose the raerae lynch.

[Robz888]

I oppose the raerae lynch.

Why do you oppose the raerae lynch?

[A Drowned Kernel]

All right, this is what I got from a reread:

eevee- Town? Ish? Wouldn't vote for him right now. I don't see scum in the vote-forgetting, I think scum is more careful than that.
scott- Scummy. I don't like how he jumped on raerae wagon and I'm seeing his reaction to the randomlynch as scummy, town would be more likely to just shrug it off as joke I think.
robz- Random lynch thing seems scummy but also believable from what I know of Robz. Null.
mail-mi- VLA means he hasn't posted much. He did kind of jump of the shraeye wagon though. Don't have a good guess on him.
yuma- Town-ish. Makes a lot of good analysis but he could be active scum trying to control the flow of the game. Wait and see I guess.
mc- Generally scummy as well as lurky. He votes for raerae, unvotes, then criticizes/calls other people scummy for unvoting. There's this whole "trying to push a mislynch without actually voting on it" thing that I'm reading. I know I'm new at this but is that a thing scum does?
pps- Buddying with shraeye? Maybe they're masons. Null I guess.
raerae- Her interaction with FTTW still looks like scumhunting town to me, as well as her response.
fttw- Mostly just a newbie townie vibe, trying to figure out what's going on.
shraeye- Buddying with pps, again not too sure on alignment. Tunneling on yuma a little.
axxle- Switches votes a lot early on but seems like he's scumhunting. Slight town I guess.

At this point I guess I'd vote for mc or scott. I dislike the idea of jumping on a wagon that started with Robz saying "let's vote someone random" but I do feel he's scummy, and I suppose I should resign myself to not perfectly agreeing with everyone's vote.

Vote: Scott

[mcmcsalot]

I;m here dunno what you want from me

[Teproc]

Vote Count 1.16:

raerae (3): AndrewisFTTW, mail-mi, mcmcsalot
yuma (2): shraeye, pingpongsam
shraeye (2): yuma, Robz888
scott_pilgrim (2): Eevee, A Drowned Kernel
AndrewisFTTW (1): raerae
Robz888 (1): scott_pilgrim

Not Voting (0):

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 4:30 p.m. on March 3, 2014.

[Teproc]

Vote Count 1.16b:

raerae (3): AndrewisFTTW, mail-mi, mcmcsalot
yuma (2): shraeye, pingpongsam
shraeye (2): yuma, Robz888
scott_pilgrim (2): Eevee, A Drowned Kernel
AndrewisFTTW (1): raerae
Robz888 (1): scott_pilgrim

Not Voting (1): Axxle

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 4:30 p.m. on March 3, 2014.

[mail-mi]

We have 2 days

Yep....

7.  Players may request a prod after 24 hours without a post.

Prod Request on: Eevee, scott, Robz, ADK, PPS, mail-mi and mcmc all haven't posted in the last 24 hours. Some are at or above 48 hours...

Vla. Sprry, been busy.

[pingpongsam]

Caught up early yesterday and again today. Will likely be gone all day but so far still standing firm on my vote. Not seeing anything new to convince me otherwise. Quite surprised there hasn't been a push for a wagon on me to date. I was kind of provoking one to see who would join it. While I have some suspicions about who may be scum I am largely null on everyone. Probably the only actual townish read I have is Axxle and I tend to doubly suspect my D1 Town reads.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.17:

raerae (3): AndrewisFTTW, mail-mi, mcmcsalot
yuma (2): shraeye, pingpongsam
shraeye (2): yuma, Robz888
scott_pilgrim (2): Eevee, A Drowned Kernel
AndrewisFTTW (1): raerae
Robz888 (1): scott_pilgrim

Not Voting (1): Axxle

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 4:30 p.m. on March 3, 2014.

That is in 24 hours.

[scott_pilgrim]

I'm here.  I think I like the raerae lynch (I'm assuming no one else wants to vote Robz yet since no one has done so for several days).  I don't like the way she's been acting but I also think we get some information from her flip.  vote: raerae I think that's L-3 but I was wrong about that last time so someone else should check before getting close to a lynch.

Did this not count for some reason?  Sorry if the vote was hard to see.

vote: raerae

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.18:

raerae (4): AndrewisFTTW, mail-mi, mcmcsalot, scott_pilgrim
yuma (2): shraeye, pingpongsam
shraeye (2): yuma, Robz888
scott_pilgrim (2): Eevee, A Drowned Kernel
AndrewisFTTW (1): raerae

Not Voting (1): Axxle

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 4:30 p.m. on March 3, 2014.

That is in less than 24 hours.

[raerae]

Notice that you didn't vote for me until you asked me if shraeye was scum or not. I gave you a newbie indirect answer and a more firm direct answer and it didn't matter anyway. I also don't like the way you handled almost being lynched and this clear stretching the truth of what actually happy isn't so great either.

You're trying to tell me you're shraeye vote wasn't sarcastic?  Really?