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Author Topic: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Town Wins on D5!)  (Read 129860 times)

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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #425 on: February 26, 2014, 07:50:13 pm »

I feel like Robz and Eevee are trying to make something out of nothing with scott and I don't get it. That said, I think Eevee's theory of scum generally reacting differently is valid.

PPE: Just saw that Axxle has a vote on scott too. I'll re-read that now.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #426 on: February 26, 2014, 07:57:44 pm »

I think Eevee's theory might actually be generally wrong, but I don't know. It's different for every person probably.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #427 on: February 26, 2014, 08:07:54 pm »

Axxle's vote for scott:

Vote: scotty
It's not too random, he hasn't said anything accept "null" "claiming is bad" and "lets hop on raerae and say the incorrect lynch count."


Which is part is because of scott's vote for raerae:

I feel like the way that raerae set up FTTW was intentional, and in the absence of anything scummier than that thus far, vote: raerae.  I think that puts her at L-2.

Which is kinda consistent with his argument here:

If a bunch of perfectly rational people played mafia D1 would just involve everyone choosing a lynch target randomly and hopping on and off wagons until one caught on and rode to the lynch.  So I like to pretend I and the other people here are perfectly rational, so I play D1 like that.

Scott's vote on raerae wasn't exactly random, but here he says he doesn't have a problem with a random lynch on D1... unless it's him of course.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #428 on: February 26, 2014, 08:34:03 pm »

Scott's vote on raerae wasn't exactly random, but here he says he doesn't have a problem with a random lynch on D1... unless it's him of course.

Well yes in theory, but in practice people do make mistakes, and they do things that make them look scummy.  In order to actually be justified in voting randomly among all people, you have to have completely null reads on everyone.  If that's what Robz is actually saying, then I am okay with him voting for me (though null reads on everyone is generally considered to be scummy, but I don't have much of a problem with it D1), but I was under the impression that that's not where he was coming from.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #429 on: February 26, 2014, 09:09:25 pm »

Hey, mail-mi, why do you believe Robz when he said he wasn't setting a trap with his IC comment but you don't believe me?
I never said I did or didn't

But that's why you're voting for me, correct?
um no my reason is the wagon speed. see this post:


I forgot we've already gone 'round on this.  Thanks for the requote.  You still think this is "all" we've got today?  What do you think of everybody else?
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #430 on: February 26, 2014, 09:11:51 pm »

I think Robz's "random lynch" thing was mostly to try and get reactions on people. SP's reaction was pretty predictable, and probably not what he was actually spending a lot of time looking at. Beyond that I couldn't say, because I'm not Robz.

FTTW, do you still like your vote on raerae?
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #431 on: February 26, 2014, 11:11:17 pm »

I forgot we've already gone 'round on this.  Thanks for the requote.  You still think this is "all" we've got today?  What do you think of everybody else?

What do you think of everybody else? I know you generally don't make "reads lists" but really the only person I feel you have been vocal about as being town or scum is Andrew.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #432 on: February 26, 2014, 11:26:27 pm »

I have like zero worthwhile thoughts about this game. When do we have to lynch? I'll lynch whoever.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #433 on: February 26, 2014, 11:29:51 pm »

I have like zero worthwhile thoughts about this game. When do we have to lynch? I'll lynch whoever.

We still have a while, although getting a lynch before the weekend is probably better than trying to get one over the weekend...

Day 1 ends at 4:30 p.m. on March 3, 2014.

Maybe a nice re-read might jar your thoughts to find something worthwhile? Want to focus on shraeye and PPS? I have been wanting to, but haven't been able to find the time now that I am back on at work...
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #434 on: February 26, 2014, 11:34:54 pm »

So much work though....................
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #435 on: February 27, 2014, 12:20:59 am »

FTTW, do you still like your vote on raerae?

Yeah, it's all I got right now.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #436 on: February 27, 2014, 09:27:09 am »

I have like zero worthwhile thoughts about this game. When do we have to lynch? I'll lynch whoever.

We still have a while, although getting a lynch before the weekend is probably better than trying to get one over the weekend...

Day 1 ends at 4:30 p.m. on March 3, 2014.

Maybe a nice re-read might jar your thoughts to find something worthwhile? Want to focus on shraeye and PPS? I have been wanting to, but haven't been able to find the time now that I am back on at work...
Continuing to publicly state that "raerae is scum" with his vote, while simultaneously steering other voters towards different options.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #437 on: February 27, 2014, 09:37:29 am »

I've got some worthwhile thought.

Won't lynch; axxle, shraeye, Scott, Yuma, robz, mail-mi
Would lynch; pps, Andrew, ADK
Want to lynch; eevee, raerae

With that vote: raerae
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #438 on: February 27, 2014, 10:08:45 am »

Hey, mail-mi, why do you believe Robz when he said he wasn't setting a trap with his IC comment but you don't believe me?
I never said I did or didn't

But that's why you're voting for me, correct?
um no my reason is the wagon speed. see this post:


I forgot we've already gone 'round on this.  Thanks for the requote.  You still think this is "all" we've got today?  What do you think of everybody else?

Well lets see... Scott lynch and yuma lynch are unappealing because yumas helpful and scotty judt isnt that scummy. I could vote for eevee, but I prefer you or shraeye.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #439 on: February 27, 2014, 02:14:04 pm »

why is not scotty not scummy/why am I?
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #440 on: February 27, 2014, 03:19:02 pm »

why is not scotty not scummy/why am I?
Youre not scummy for anything specific, just thati wouldn't oppose your lynch.  Scotty is more of a town feeling.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #441 on: February 27, 2014, 03:28:25 pm »

why is not scotty not scummy/why am I?
Youre not scummy for anything specific, just thati wouldn't oppose your lynch.  Scotty is more of a town feeling.

Is that just because Eevee has been more active? I've heard arguments saying both being active and inactive are scummy.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #442 on: February 27, 2014, 03:39:56 pm »

yeah, in general I don't think activity level is very indicative of alignment.  Sometimes the argument can be made that somebody was 'strategically gone' during a crucial portion of debate.  But sometimes people are just IRL-busy then, and it's a baseless argument.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #443 on: February 27, 2014, 04:14:45 pm »

Activity has been relatively high across the board considering how slow some other games have moved. The only person who sticks out as lurking to me is Axxle.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #444 on: February 27, 2014, 04:15:26 pm »

And then I checked and even Axxle is posting fairly regularly.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #445 on: February 27, 2014, 05:03:52 pm »

Vote Count 1.14:

raerae (4): yuma, AndrewisFTTW, mail-mi, mcmcsalot
yuma (1): shraeye
AndrewisFTTW (1): raerae
mail-mi (1): A Drowned Kernel
scott_pilgrim (3): Eevee, Robz888, Axxle
Eevee (1): pingpongsam
Robz888 (1): scott_pilgrim

Not Voting (0):

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 4:30 p.m. on March 3, 2014.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #446 on: February 27, 2014, 05:16:44 pm »

Traveling home for double baby showers so will be VLA from 2/28-5/3

then

Traveling out of state for work and will be VLA 5/5-5/7.

Will be keeping up with the goings on in my game but will likely have drastically reduced capacity to contribute although I hope to be able to at least post once a day or more.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #447 on: February 27, 2014, 05:18:13 pm »

We are all over the place.
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #448 on: February 27, 2014, 05:18:20 pm »

Traveling home for double baby showers so will be VLA from 2/28-5/3

then

Traveling out of state for work and will be VLA 5/5-5/7.

Will be keeping up with the goings on in my game but will likely have drastically reduced capacity to contribute although I hope to be able to at least post once a day or more.
Till May? Is that right?
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Re: MXXXIX: Adventure Time! Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #449 on: February 27, 2014, 05:22:37 pm »

Haha, no, I'm losing my mind. That would be more like 2/28-3/3 then 3/5-3/7.
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