OK, I'm done with this nonsense. It was never a "trap", it was never a "set-up", it was a damn question to gauge reaction and response. I responded to mcmc when he asked what wouldn't have made me vote and I thought that was clear. Do you have questions on that response, yuma? Or anybody else who thinks I'm just prowling these woods, setting traps, and poaching whatever comes in?
Ok... maybe trap isn't quite the right wordage to use. But let's look at what you did...
So this quote is at the end of the post that you quoted:
Personally, I think the thing on shraeye is nonsense and I'm shocked it gained as much traction as it did.
So you come into the conversation before questioning Andrew with the idea in mind that the case on shraeye was nonsense... This is your mindset...
With this mindset you form the following questions: (with an answer to the first from Andrew in between)
Hey, Andrew, can we get your side of the story on this? You think shraeye was trying to paint you in an ugly way?
and
Sure. I did feel a little pressured and it seemed like the question was posed in an accusatory manner. However, this is the internet and I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. I have no facial expression to go on and certain sentences can seem like they're saying more than they actually are. That is to say things can be quite easily misinterpreted and skewed. Ok now I'm rambling.
Sorry for playing devil's advocate but the main thing I felt when I first read that was "why am I being asked this? I thought I was clear what I was trying to learn." It seemed more like prodding and unnecessary interrogation than a serious curiosity. Of course, that's what this game is about right?
So, is shraeye scum or not?
You lead Andrew into the conversation about shraeye. You phrase your question so that it makes Andrew think about shraeye in an "ugly" scummy way.
He gives an answer that I felt perfectly answered what you asked... He says that the question was asked in an accusatory manner (giving you the knowledge that there was some scummy inclination on his part) but isn't sure about it... since when is some indecision such a bad thing on day1 from a brand new player??? I mean sure it isn't ideal. But I think it is far better than a player who comes in with the idea that their reads are absolute and 100% accurate and will refuse to budge!
After that you post a question that in and of itself isn't bad. "Is shraeye scummy?" But the way it is phrased makes it look like Andrew was trying to avoid answering that question in his first reply when you never asked him that question directly.
So really what I saw was:
1. you came in with an established idea about the shraeye wagon (and thus shraeye's alignment"
2. you primed Andrew with a question to make him be inclined to find shraeye scummy
3. you seemed to express disappointment that Andrew didn't come out and directly say shraeye was scummy when you never specifically asked him that
4. and then once he does directly answer your question you vote, which seems like it was the whole purpose of it all, that you wanted to get him to vote for shraeye so you could then vote for him.
I don't know... maybe I am seeing something here that isn't really here, but that is what I feel like I saw. And maybe there is a town narrative to what you did (it isn't really my style of trying to out scum)
As for questions... I don't know if I really have any.... I will certainly read any response you write and answer any questions you have...
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