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[xeiron]

Did nkirbit tell you why he chose you as his neighbor?

Yes.

quote  from nkirbit:
The reason I chose you is that I know you like to make up a lot of theories.. You did so in both innovation and Shakespeare.

In innovation it turned out you were by far the most correct, but I thought you were scum so it didn't help us out. Shakespeare you were way off, but it was day1 and you really didn't have much to work with. I thought you might like a place to spitball about random theries, I dunno. I didn't know who else to pick so I went with that.

[xeiron]

The scummiest pleople, in order:

yuma
ashersky

Walrus
xeiron

nkirbit
e

Jimmmmm
jotheonah
EFHW
faust

This is petty much my list as well.

[EFHW]

xeiron - is there anything nkirbit could say that would explain my not being jailkept on N1?

My sugestion is that your action actually counts as being in the night you travel to, not from.
If so you have done your N2 and N3 action, but not a N1 action yet, and has therefore not been Jailkept.

Do you think this is a possibility? If not, things look bad for Yuma.

No, I don't.  I took the action in N1. 

I am The Doctor, (get ready) a compulsive enabled time traveling lonely innocent child.  I also have regeneration, which is also enabled.  xeiron's post clears up my confusion.  I am required to pick someone to take to another time with me.  That person gets a bonus.  I thought they got to perform their action in the new time, but it looks like it actually interferes with their action-taking, as they are from then on ineligible to act in the time I take them to.  I was confused b/c when faust didn't take an action in N3, I didn't see what the point of the time-traveling was.

N1 I took nkirbit to N2, N2 I took faust to N3.  It sounds like they still performed their own actions in their original time frames, when permitted, despite my "whisking" them elsewhere.

 

[EFHW]

vote: yuma

ashersky - Do you have any ideas about why you are still alive?  Do you have regeneration?

[EFHW]

I am Ian Chesterton, Jack-Of-All-Trades. I am a 1-shot Watcher, 1-shot Tracker.

Night 1, I watched ashersky. I did not receive any information.

Is this why you said you could have been roleblocked?

[yuma]

I was not jailkept N1.  I took an action that did go through.

well I don't know what to say about that... I can't explain it.

[faust]

vote: yuma

ashersky - Do you have any ideas about why you are still alive?  Do you have regeneration?

This is an interesting question. After N1, I supposed that ashersky had some kind of power that prevents him from being targeted (Commuter or something like that), which would also explain his coming out that early (hoping to attract NKs). But now he full-claimed and didn't say anything like that.

[faust]

I am Ian Chesterton, Jack-Of-All-Trades. I am a 1-shot Watcher, 1-shot Tracker.

Night 1, I watched ashersky. I did not receive any information.

Is this why you said you could have been roleblocked?

Yes.

[yuma]

I am The Tardis an ascetic Time Travel Enabler compulsive random Redirector.
Ascetic - all night actions on me, except kills, fail. This is probably there to stop paradoxes.
Time Travel Enabeler - Passive power. When I die, no one will be able to time travel anymore.
Cumpulsive random redirector - Each night I must target someone. Instead of their original target, they will target someone randomly among all the living players. If the person they ended up targeting is an illegal target, thier action counts as blocked instead.

N1 I targeted Walrus. This means that his roleblocking have been redirected from pps to someone else. Seems like it was directed to 2.7, or back to Walrus himself (Walrus would then count as blocked as roleblockers are usually not allowed to self target).

Or it was directed to me!

[faust]

I am The Tardis an ascetic Time Travel Enabler compulsive random Redirector.
Ascetic - all night actions on me, except kills, fail. This is probably there to stop paradoxes.
Time Travel Enabeler - Passive power. When I die, no one will be able to time travel anymore.
Cumpulsive random redirector - Each night I must target someone. Instead of their original target, they will target someone randomly among all the living players. If the person they ended up targeting is an illegal target, thier action counts as blocked instead.

N1 I targeted Walrus. This means that his roleblocking have been redirected from pps to someone else. Seems like it was directed to 2.7, or back to Walrus himself (Walrus would then count as blocked as roleblockers are usually not allowed to self target).

Or it was directed to me!

But if that were the case, it would have been redirected to you after N2, as Walrus travelled to N1 on N2. If you had targeted EFHW N1, her action would have still gone through and would have only been blocked later. (this is confusing and I hope you understand what I mean)

[faust]

I am The Tardis an ascetic Time Travel Enabler compulsive random Redirector.
Ascetic - all night actions on me, except kills, fail. This is probably there to stop paradoxes.
Time Travel Enabeler - Passive power. When I die, no one will be able to time travel anymore.
Cumpulsive random redirector - Each night I must target someone. Instead of their original target, they will target someone randomly among all the living players. If the person they ended up targeting is an illegal target, thier action counts as blocked instead.

N1 I targeted Walrus. This means that his roleblocking have been redirected from pps to someone else. Seems like it was directed to 2.7, or back to Walrus himself (Walrus would then count as blocked as roleblockers are usually not allowed to self target).

Or it was directed to me!

But if that were the case, it would have been redirected to you after N2, as Walrus travelled to N1 on N2. If you had targeted EFHW N1, her action would have still gone through and would have only been blocked later. (this is confusing and I hope you understand what I mean)

Got it the wrong way. I meant: her action would have still been blocked, only to be activated later.

[yuma]

I have no idea what you are saying faust.

[EFHW]

I am Ian Chesterton, Jack-Of-All-Trades. I am a 1-shot Watcher, 1-shot Tracker.

Night 1, I watched ashersky. I did not receive any information.

Is this why you said you could have been roleblocked?

Yes.

you got no message at all? or you got a message saying "no result", or some such?  (don't quote it, though!)

[EFHW]

I have no idea what you are saying faust.

He is saying that Walrus's roleblock was placed in N1 on N2.  N1 actions were resolved twice.  Once N1, and again N2.  This means that the second time N1 was resolved (on N2), Walrus's roleblock was redirected, because he placed it there N2.  According to you, you had already targeted me the first time N1 was resolved, and my action also placed the first time through, happened.

[faust]

I have no idea what you are saying faust.

This is Night 1, according to you:

yuma jailkeeps EFHW
EFHW targets nkirbit
xeiron redirects Walrus
[other stuff]

And this is Night 2, according to you:

Walrus travels to N1 and blocks pps, gets redirected to yuma

So after N1, EFHW would be blocked. Only after N2 events are resolved, EFHW would no longer be blocked. But that's not what happened.

[faust]

I am Ian Chesterton, Jack-Of-All-Trades. I am a 1-shot Watcher, 1-shot Tracker.

Night 1, I watched ashersky. I did not receive any information.

Is this why you said you could have been roleblocked?

Yes.

you got no message at all? or you got a message saying "no result", or some such?  (don't quote it, though!)

I got no message at all. I asked again if it maybe was forgotten, only to be informed that all night results have already been delivered.

[yuma]

I have no idea what you are saying faust.

He is saying that Walrus's roleblock was placed in N1 on N2.  N1 actions were resolved twice.  Once N1, and again N2.  This means that the second time N1 was resolved (on N2), Walrus's roleblock was redirected, because he placed it there N2.  According to you, you had already targeted me the first time N1 was resolved, and my action also placed the first time through, happened.

Ah... then I have no idea. All I know is that I targeted EFHW. I Don't really mind being lynched as we are ahead it appears, but I would prefer not to especially as I thought mass claiming would help us find scum, not get me mislynched....

[EFHW]

I am Ian Chesterton, Jack-Of-All-Trades. I am a 1-shot Watcher, 1-shot Tracker.

Night 1, I watched ashersky. I did not receive any information.

Is this why you said you could have been roleblocked?

Yes.

you got no message at all? or you got a message saying "no result", or some such?  (don't quote it, though!)

I got no message at all. I asked again if it maybe was forgotten, only to be informed that all night results have already been delivered.

So the 2.7 watcher conundrum has not been solved.  I have to go for a bit, when I get back I'll update the list of roles and questions.

[faust]

My last post inspired me to do the full night action list, as claimed.

Night 1

chairs
sudgy
Walrus
Jimmmmm
xeiron
ashersky
faust
Galzria/yuma
2.71828.....
EFHW
pingpongsam
nkirbit
14. jotheonah

[faust]

something just went wrong.

[Jimmmmm]

something just went wrong.

What?

[faust]

My last post inspired me to do the full night action list, as claimed.

Night 1

chairs           investigates for Recruiting
sudgy           doctors                           Walrus
Walrus          roleblocks (from N2)           pingpongsam
Jimmmmm      does nothing
xeiron           redirects                          Walrus
ashersky       does nothing
faust            watches                           ashersky
Galzria/yuma  jailkeeps                           EFHW
2.71828.....   follows                             Walrus
EFHW           chooses                           nkirbit
pingpongsam                                   
nkirbit           cops                               jotheonah
jotheonah      cops                               sudgy

Night 2

chairs           does nothing
Walrus          vigs (from N1, nullified)      pingpongsam
Jimmmmm      doctors                           jotheonah
xeiron           redirects                         ashersky
ashersky       does nothing
faust            tracks                            jotheonah
Galzria/yuma  jailkeeps                         ashersky
2.71828.....   voyeurs                          jotheonah
EFHW           chooses                          faust
nkirbit           travels with EFHW
jotheonah      does nothing

[faust]

Walrus, is it clear whether you can still vig on D2? I asked Voltaire what would happen if I tracked you, and he said I would receive no result, so maybe you can still vig.

[EFHW]

Faust's list updated with results

Night 1

chairs           investigates for Recruiting
sudgy           doctors                           Walrus                       sudgy dies
Walrus          roleblocks (from N2)           pingpongsam            faust is roleblocked
Jimmmmm      does nothing
xeiron           redirects                          Walrus                     
ashersky       does nothing
faust            watches                           ashersky                   doesn't get a result
Galzria/yuma  jailkeeps                           EFHW                     EFHW not jailkept
2.71828.....   follows                             Walrus                     Walrus did nothing
EFHW           chooses                           nkirbit                       nkirbit gets a friend
pingpongsam                                   
nkirbit           cops                               jotheonah                  joth did not time travel
jotheonah      cops                               sudgy                        sudgy had weak modifier

Night 2

chairs           does nothing
Walrus          vigs (from N1, nullified)      pingpongsam         
Jimmmmm      doctors                           jotheonah                 Jimmmmm lives
xeiron           redirects                         ashersky                   
ashersky       does nothing
faust            tracks                            Jimmmmm (FTFY)         he did target joth
Galzria/yuma  jailkeeps                         ashersky
2.71828.....   voyeurs                          jotheonah                   joth targeted with protective role
EFHW           chooses                          faust                         faust gets 1-shot watcher
nkirbit          time cops                       Walrus
jotheonah      does nothing
[/quote]

[xeiron]

Are watchers usually told that theself targeted their target?
If they are, Faust must have been blocked in some way.

If not, are we sure faust just did not get a result because nobody else targeted Ash?