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Author Topic: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Game Over - Town + Survivor win!)  (Read 157264 times)

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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Night 0)
« Reply #75 on: December 18, 2013, 05:38:56 pm »

First!
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #76 on: December 18, 2013, 05:41:20 pm »

Second!

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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #77 on: December 18, 2013, 05:42:20 pm »

Vote: joth for posting in a locked thread
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #78 on: December 18, 2013, 05:43:13 pm »

vote: sudgy for voting the IC.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2013, 05:45:41 pm »

Vote: jotheonah for being new
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #80 on: December 18, 2013, 05:45:46 pm »

Also, I am an enabler.

I'm claiming now for a reason.  I'm positive, from my role description, that I enabled more than one person.  I know what power I enable.  I believe that you don't know that you are enabled.

I'm also the resident expert on enablers, and I'm honored that Voltaire decided to borrow the role from his experience in Modern Community!.  Hence my decision to claim right out of the gate.

I believe this tells us a lot about the set-up, and about how it may interact with the time travel rules the mod has set-up.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #81 on: December 18, 2013, 05:52:27 pm »

Vote: jotheonah for being new
joth isn't new. He modded mafia V. That makes him old
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #82 on: December 18, 2013, 06:05:15 pm »

Vote: jotheonah for being new
joth isn't new. He modded mafia V. That makes him old
Well, newly returning. I have played with Jo before.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #83 on: December 18, 2013, 06:08:08 pm »

vote: sudgy for voting the IC.

Vote: ashersky for voting me when he should know it's a joke since I did the same thing in a game he modded!

And, oh my.  A claim.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #84 on: December 18, 2013, 06:09:29 pm »

Vote: jotheonah for being new
joth isn't new. He modded mafia V. That makes him old
Well, newly returning. I have played with Jo before.
vote: archetype
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #85 on: December 18, 2013, 06:17:23 pm »

Also, I am an enabler.

I'm claiming now for a reason.  I'm positive, from my role description, that I enabled more than one person.  I know what power I enable.  I believe that you don't know that you are enabled.

I'm also the resident expert on enablers, and I'm honored that Voltaire decided to borrow the role from his experience in Modern Community!.  Hence my decision to claim right out of the gate.

I believe this tells us a lot about the set-up, and about how it may interact with the time travel rules the mod has set-up.
Modern community had cross-team enabeling, right? Do you think you enable scum? Maybe both scum and town?
I trust that you will judge yourself how important the role you enable is for scum, and that you will volunteer for a self-lynch if that is the best we can do to hurt scum today.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #86 on: December 18, 2013, 06:20:09 pm »

Also, I am an enabler.

I'm claiming now for a reason.  I'm positive, from my role description, that I enabled more than one person.  I know what power I enable.  I believe that you don't know that you are enabled.

I'm also the resident expert on enablers, and I'm honored that Voltaire decided to borrow the role from his experience in Modern Community!.  Hence my decision to claim right out of the gate.

I believe this tells us a lot about the set-up, and about how it may interact with the time travel rules the mod has set-up.
Modern community had cross-team enabeling, right? Do you think you enable scum? Maybe both scum and town?
I trust that you will judge yourself how important the role you enable is for scum, and that you will volunteer for a self-lynch if that is the best we can do to hurt scum today.

From my PM (specifically the power I enable), it's much more likely I'm enabling town.  I can come up with scenarios where I might enable scum as well, and there are a few things that could make that clear to me, probably as soon as D2.

If/when it's determined that my enabling is hurting town more than helping, we should definitely lynch me.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #87 on: December 18, 2013, 06:24:48 pm »

Something something jotheonah being old and new something something time travel joke.

And wow, right out of the gate with a claim. I am intrigued! One the one hand, it's good to see ash with some quick and decisive action. Nobody could accuse him of being "planless" here. On the other hand, why the immediacy? Was this claim so important that it goes against the established protocol of patience? Just because you're the resident expert? It smells a bit rolefishy to me. What manner of expertise do you have to share that will be so helpful? Or is that not for us to know yet?

So I'm landing pretty null on the claim right now. But I do like that it gives us something to talk about.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #88 on: December 18, 2013, 06:37:49 pm »

Interesting claim.
@ash: You don't think Enabled players would be told that they were Enabled?
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #89 on: December 18, 2013, 06:38:06 pm »

Keep in mind that Galzria, with a similar role, claimed D1 too.  I don't think it's the worst claim to make.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #90 on: December 18, 2013, 06:53:03 pm »

Keep in mind that Galzria, with a similar role, claimed D1 too.  I don't think it's the worst claim to make.

I considered that. But of course ash knows this, and he knows that we know this. It's possible he's made allusions to Modern Community in order to get us thinking along those lines.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #91 on: December 18, 2013, 07:18:27 pm »

Why is claiming expressly bad, anyhow? It is information that can be leverage for corroboration later, no?

Besides, if ash is scum why would he reveal this if it were true? Right, he would not. If he is scum his revelation is proven untrue, well, that would be dumb too, right?

So, if ash is Town and what he reveals is true then at worst he gave Mafia information but guess what, he gave us information too. Information that can be corroborated and/or used to sort out the typically confusing happening of RMM. I seriously doubt a Town ash is coing right out of the gate with false information since that is always stupid and I seriously doubt scum ash would make the play whether it was true or not.

So, I ask, what's the problem with his play?
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #92 on: December 18, 2013, 07:22:38 pm »

No problem per se. As I said, I'm feeling pretty null about it right now. But ash has cultivated a meta as someone who is capable of anything. It would be foolish to take the claim at face value.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #93 on: December 18, 2013, 07:34:37 pm »

Interesting claim.
@ash: You don't think Enabled players would be told that they were Enabled?

Just the way the PM is worded, and the fact that I think I'm enabling more than one player.  I just don't see this as a "you are an enabled [power]" type of power.

I'm sure someone could prove this one way or the other, but I don't want to actually out the power itself, or the players holding it, as that would not be good.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #94 on: December 18, 2013, 08:05:24 pm »

Hi everyone.

I don't know what ashersky is up to.  It seems unwise, really, but there may be more to the story.  I have to go look up why Galzria did it.  I understood at the time.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #95 on: December 18, 2013, 08:17:51 pm »

Looked it up.  Galzria claimed b/c he thought maybe town should lynch him, just in case he enabled a scum power.  ashersky says his claim is along those same lines, but then he thinks he enables town.  So he seems to have painted a target on his back more than anything else.  If enabled players don't know they are enabled, this new information doesn't help them b/c they don't know if it involves them or not.  And I don't see how this helps with figuring out time travel puzzles at this point. 

sudgy, pps supporting this makes me suspicious of the three of them.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #96 on: December 18, 2013, 08:19:28 pm »

Vote: sugdy for voting the IC.
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #97 on: December 18, 2013, 08:22:49 pm »

Something something jotheonah being old and new something something time travel joke.

And wow, right out of the gate with a claim. I am intrigued! One the one hand, it's good to see ash with some quick and decisive action. Nobody could accuse him of being "planless" here. On the other hand, why the immediacy? Was this claim so important that it goes against the established protocol of patience? Just because you're the resident expert? It smells a bit rolefishy to me. What manner of expertise do you have to share that will be so helpful? Or is that not for us to know yet?

So I'm landing pretty null on the claim right now. But I do like that it gives us something to talk about.

You made a great argument, but ended up null?
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #98 on: December 18, 2013, 08:31:31 pm »

Interesting claim.
@ash: You don't think Enabled players would be told that they were Enabled?

Just the way the PM is worded, and the fact that I think I'm enabling more than one player.  I just don't see this as a "you are an enabled [power]" type of power.

I'm sure someone could prove this one way or the other, but I don't want to actually out the power itself, or the players holding it, as that would not be good.
I still don't understand why you claimed. I'm leaning scum, but its a weird claim coming from scum. Especially right of the gate.

Vote:ashersky
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Re: RMM12: Time War Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #99 on: December 18, 2013, 08:31:58 pm »

Second!

And, obviously, Vote: EFHW.

Vote: sudgy. I'm pretty sure EFHW is Town.
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