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[Galzria]

Robz, your last statement about mcmc not being scum if IDPTG isn't doesn't really follow. Of course he could be scum with town!IDPTG - He's just, supposedly, reporting facts, right? That's not alignment indicative.

[Robz888]

Robz, your last statement about mcmc not being scum if IDPTG isn't doesn't really follow. Of course he could be scum with town!IDPTG - He's just, supposedly, reporting facts, right? That's not alignment indicative.

He says IDP visited him Night 1. Town!IDP + scum!mcmc = IDP already being dead.

[Galzria]

I love mcmc's coming in far after the fact with the holier-than-thou attitude about the Swan lynch.

[Galzria]

Robz, your last statement about mcmc not being scum if IDPTG isn't doesn't really follow. Of course he could be scum with town!IDPTG - He's just, supposedly, reporting facts, right? That's not alignment indicative.

He says IDP visited him Night 1. Town!IDP + scum!mcmc = IDP already being dead.

Ah, yes.

[Galzria]

Robz, your last statement about mcmc not being scum if IDPTG isn't doesn't really follow. Of course he could be scum with town!IDPTG - He's just, supposedly, reporting facts, right? That's not alignment indicative.

He says IDP visited him Night 1. Town!IDP + scum!mcmc = IDP already being dead.

Ah, yes.

Although I don't get idptg's reads then d2 - because while he was townie-ish on Mcmc, it certainly wasn't a strong read.

[gkrieg13]

Sorry, getting used to the new schedule. Will get to this tomorrow.

[Robz888]

So Day 2 begins, IDP realizes he's in a neighborhood with mcmc, he's all like "sweet, guess what, I just found out you were town." Yes? Mcmc neighborized IDP at the same time IDP (supposedly) visited mcmc.

[mcmcsalot]

OKAY CAUGHT UP. All info out time.

I am active and neighborized IDPTG Night 1 and Night 2. The reason being my neighborization is successful even if someone dies the same night I neighborize them. So if idptg is active which he has claimed to be and turned up dead in the night I could get the exact person he targeted. Night one IDPTG claimed to target me and recieve town, night two he claimed to have targeted galz (before galz claimed) and also mentioned how dumb he felt for doing that as galz is fox. Galz targeted the dead townie.

Part of me wants to yell too much of a coincidence and say the scum team contains idptg/galz and probably one of robz/gkrieg/eevee.

Teprox is absolutely town, scum latched on the second he aimed for datswan and I think all three were on datswans wagon.

I am slightly confused by how you are wording this, although I don't think it matters, but to be clear... you neighborize someone during the night, but the QT doesn't open until day right?I think that's how it worked with me, it was Night 0 though, maybe that was different. When you say "night two he claimed to have targeted Galz" you mean that he claimed, like recently, during the beginning of this current day, Day 3, to have targeted Galz Night 2, yes?

Did IDP realize it was reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally stupid to have targeted Galz before you pointed it out, or did you tell him?

So, if I am following this correctly, even if it was town!IDP and scum!Galz, and IDP did target Galz, he would have been redirected to EFHW, who was town, and IDP would not have actually died even though he tried to visit scum. Right?

The scum!IDP theory would be, he set this up with scum!Galz, or he knew Galz was town so it was safe to visit him. (Visiting works the same for scum-aligned Pichu, I take it? Have to visit town to stay alive? I guess that makes sense.)

Despite already thinking Galz/IDP are like the scummiest people here, I'm not actually sure this makes either of them more likely to be scum.

The only way mcmc could be scum here is if IDP is, though. Unless gkrieg messed with IDP on Night 1, but that seems unlikely.

Yes I neighborize at night and the QT opens at day start. THe interesting thing is if say Night 2 I target IDPTG and Night two IDPTG dies My qt with him still opens Day 3. Yes IDPTG claimed to have targeted Glaz night two during the beginning of this day 3. He stated it was stupid for him to target galz before I said anyhting today. IDPTG did feel towny to me during early day two and it was the end of day 2 and the night/beginning of day 3 that he began worrying me.

yes if IDP is town and Galz scum and galz did redirect to efhw IDP would still be alive.

I think scum!idp is non active and set up with scum!galz a convinient way to not be forced into confirming someone as town to me. Scum kills efhw and idptg claims to target galz. Glaz protects his partner by claiming to have redirected to efhw so idptg doesnt get any usefull result. end result idptg has told me im town and soemone dead is town.

I think it makes alot of sense for them to be scum why dont you?

true with that last part either IDP and I are both scum or gkrieg messed with idp night 1.

[mcmcsalot]

I love mcmc's coming in far after the fact with the holier-than-thou attitude about the Swan lynch.

sorry I was on vacation, you knew that. this feels like scum!galz trying to evoke emotion. It was a bad lynch period

[mcmcsalot]

Robz, your last statement about mcmc not being scum if IDPTG isn't doesn't really follow. Of course he could be scum with town!IDPTG - He's just, supposedly, reporting facts, right? That's not alignment indicative.

He says IDP visited him Night 1. Town!IDP + scum!mcmc = IDP already being dead.

Ah, yes.

Although I don't get idptg's reads then d2 - because while he was townie-ish on Mcmc, it certainly wasn't a strong read.

at the time I felt it was IDPTG trying to not be obvious about investigating me, now I just think it was scummy of him

[mcmcsalot]

Mcmc, I'm not sure why you end this case with a Galz vote. Isn't your thinking "IDP is scum and Galz is likely partner" but that IDP is really the caught scum here?

True but town!IDPTG could just have made a terrible play in targetting galz, we already accepted town!O making a terrible play, I already felt scummy on galz and scum!galz could have know scum killing EFHW it would also be smart to direct from himself to efhw.

Really I could lynch IDPTG as well

[mcmcsalot]

So Day 2 begins, IDP realizes he's in a neighborhood with mcmc, he's all like "sweet, guess what, I just found out you were town." Yes? Mcmc neighborized IDP at the same time IDP (supposedly) visited mcmc.

yep that didnt happen.

SO IDPTG was weary of trusting me. After a few posts asking how I was sure he was active (I jumped out the gate asking his target and explaining why I targeted him and how even if he died I could get his result) then he decieded me and gkrieg hadnt devised some scum plan where gkreig rediredted IDPTG from me to a town member whilst I neighborized him so I could trick him into trusting me. He wasnt particularly active in qt but neither was I as I was on the cruise ship

[Robz888]

I think it makes alot of sense for them to be scum why dont you?

I do think it makes sense. It's just, there's nothing there that makes it "yes, this has to be what happened."

Don't misunderstand me, I think it's valuable info you presented, I'm definitely glad you full claimed.

[O]

Mcmc, I'm not sure why you end this case with a Galz vote. Isn't your thinking "IDP is scum and Galz is likely partner" but that IDP is really the caught scum here?

True but town!IDPTG could just have made a terrible play in targetting galz, we already accepted town!O making a terrible play, I already felt scummy on galz and scum!galz could have know scum killing EFHW it would also be smart to direct from himself to efhw.

Really I could lynch IDPTG as well

still don't think it would be an objectively terrible play if I had been correctly informed, FWIW.

[O]

What are the two wagons you posted on, Galz?

[Galzria]

What are the two wagons you posted on, Galz?

He claimed I was scum because I lynched town. Those were the wagons EoD 1 & 2. Yes, I was on both lynches. D1 we damn near almost no lynched, and D2 there was no consensus (or even close) on any other candidate. Certainly not my picks at the time. And I am far from the only person on both wagons, which disproves a point that he already knows is rubbish anyway.

[O]

What are the two wagons you posted on, Galz?

He claimed I was scum because I lynched town. Those were the wagons EoD 1 & 2. Yes, I was on both lynches. D1 we damn near almost no lynched, and D2 there was no consensus (or even close) on any other candidate. Certainly not my picks at the time. And I am far from the only person on both wagons, which disproves a point that he already knows is rubbish anyway.

I'm just amused how frequently I end up just off these wagons. Happened in m100 too.

[Galzria]

It's hilarious how Mcmc screams about too many coincidences for:

IDPTG targets Galzria
Galzria targets EFHW

But defends:

O targets Teproc
Teproc targets Faust

As completely reasonable.

[Galzria]

I would like to hear from IDPTG on the topic of targeting me. He was obviously aware of resolution earlier in the game. Did he not think I would use my power N1 and N2? I'm one of the highest NK targets on f.ds as town - and even though I had diminished the likelihood scum targeted me N2 by claiming, I don't think it's all that unlikely for me to redirect.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

I would like to hear from IDPTG on the topic of targeting me. He was obviously aware of resolution earlier in the game. Did he not think I would use my power N1 and N2? I'm one of the highest NK targets on f.ds as town - and even though I had diminished the likelihood scum targeted me N2 by claiming, I don't think it's all that unlikely for me to redirect.

I'll look at the rest later, but yeah, that was a braindead move on my part. I got mixed up and I don't think calling people by flavor names rather than roles helped much. I normally pay a lot of attention to set-up and don't make mistakes like that.

[Robz888]

vote: IDP

[gkrieg13]

So Day 2 begins, IDP realizes he's in a neighborhood with mcmc, he's all like "sweet, guess what, I just found out you were town." Yes? Mcmc neighborized IDP at the same time IDP (supposedly) visited mcmc.

yep that didnt happen.

SO IDPTG was weary of trusting me. After a few posts asking how I was sure he was active (I jumped out the gate asking his target and explaining why I targeted him and how even if he died I could get his result) then he decieded me and gkrieg hadnt devised some scum plan where gkreig rediredted IDPTG from me to a town member whilst I neighborized him so I could trick him into trusting me. He wasnt particularly active in qt but neither was I as I was on the cruise ship

I didn’t target IDPTG either night.

[gkrieg13]

So Day 2 begins, IDP realizes he's in a neighborhood with mcmc, he's all like "sweet, guess what, I just found out you were town." Yes? Mcmc neighborized IDP at the same time IDP (supposedly) visited mcmc.

yep that didnt happen.

SO IDPTG was weary of trusting me. After a few posts asking how I was sure he was active (I jumped out the gate asking his target and explaining why I targeted him and how even if he died I could get his result) then he decieded me and gkrieg hadnt devised some scum plan where gkreig rediredted IDPTG from me to a town member whilst I neighborized him so I could trick him into trusting me. He wasnt particularly active in qt but neither was I as I was on the cruise ship

I didn’t target IDPTG either night.

Just reread that and realized what you actually said. That seems like a dumb plan for us to do instead of just redirecting him on to scum if we were both scum though.

[gkrieg13]

Mcmc reads as town with all of this, and galz is a lot scummier. I still think IDPTG targeting galzria is the scummiest mixed with my scum read I had on IDPTG already.

[Archetype]

Vote Count 3.1

Galzria (1): mcmcsalot
Robz888 (2): IDontPlayThisGame, Galzria
IDontPlayThisGame (2): gkrieg13, Robz888
ashersky (1): Eevee

Not Voting (4): ashersky, Teproc, O, theorel
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 will end January 15th at 2:30 PM.