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Author Topic: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Town Wins!)  (Read 329448 times)

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2650 on: December 17, 2015, 01:30:00 pm »

I specifically asked Ashersky, because, indeed, it would make my role completely useless.  I detect anything other than my target.  So if I'm the only one to target my target (and my target takes no actions), I receive that there was no motion detected.  Which is what I got from Hydrad.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2651 on: December 17, 2015, 01:31:41 pm »

I specifically asked Ashersky, because, indeed, it would make my role completely useless.  I detect anything other than my target.  So if I'm the only one to target my target (and my target takes no actions), I receive that there was no motion detected.  Which is what I got from Hydrad.

Makes sense. PS... realizing the potential source for confusion on this role I think makes WW's claim townier and more believable by the way.

{mandatory discussion about ability to fake it... whatever... whatever... this is what I think guys}
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2652 on: December 17, 2015, 01:34:25 pm »

You wouldn't do a dishonest reread yuma, not as town. Or I hope you wouldn't, because that's insanely anti-town.

It wouldn't be a dishonest reread. It would be an attempt to find things that were scummy in X's play so that he got lynched and I didn't. Unless I was like a strictly negative utility role to town and knew, or believed, that he was a strong role I would try hard to get X lynched over me.

That is insanely pro-town to not get myself lynched when town and try to get someone else of unknown alignment lynched instead.

What I'm saying is that e is inventing a case here. Not overstating a case, he's just straight up making up facts.

Of course wanting to lynch someone other than you is townie, or, well, null to be more precise.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2653 on: December 17, 2015, 01:36:05 pm »

I suggest you reread Chocolate Factory, if that's the relevant game to you.

That was like 2 years ago. It holds no water anymore and your persistence in trying to continually reference it hurts your case more than it helps. Tell me something recent. Tell me something worth knowing about. Not a game only 3 people remember from two years ago.

e brought it up to say that I was similar here to in Chocolate Factor (orsomething to that effect, look it up).

I would never bring up a game to talk about my scum meta, because that's all WIFOM.

I did bring up Chocolate Facotry earlier because it was the only example I could think of with a PR with a guilty result withholding it. 4 people in this game were involving in it by the way, it's not that obscure.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2654 on: December 17, 2015, 01:42:23 pm »

yuma : I disagree about the WW/Hydrad thing because of contigencies. I agree Hydrad is relatively unlikely to be town if WW is town, and that WW is relatively unlikely to be scum... but it's still acontigency and therefore not very reliable.

Bottom line is : HYdrad is scummy (to me). The WW thing makes him a less desireable lynch than he would be normally, but still an ok lynch to me.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2655 on: December 17, 2015, 01:46:02 pm »

yuma : I disagree about the WW/Hydrad thing because of contigencies. I agree Hydrad is relatively unlikely to be town if WW is town, and that WW is relatively unlikely to be scum... but it's still acontigency and therefore not very reliable.

Bottom line is : HYdrad is scummy (to me). The WW thing makes him a less desireable lynch than he would be normally, but still an ok lynch to me.

Well I guess I am saying the same thing then. He is the middle of the road lynch for me.

right now I would put faust/WW/Haddock/2.7 (not in order) all above him in terms of not wanting to lynch. He is in the middle. Those I could lynch are RR/Teproc/EgorK/iguana (not in order). So he might be an ok lynch. But in my mind there are 4 other options that are better that we should go for (I know you disagree, but sub in 2.7 for yourself and we would be close to being on the same page I think?)
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2656 on: December 17, 2015, 01:47:20 pm »

I reread. On my phone again. I am moving this weekend, its starting to get busy.

vote: roadrunner

I guess I prefer Teproc over e. The only time e has said anything scummy is in the past few pages and he just looks like he's trying to stay alive. But seriously I think Teproc is town.
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2657 on: December 17, 2015, 01:47:35 pm »

I have less scumreads than you is the thing, which makes Hydrad N°3 for me. My lynch preferences.

1. 2.71828...









2. EgorK
3. Hydrad




4. Roadrunner7671













5. Basically everyone else. Would not lynch them unless it was me vs them.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2658 on: December 17, 2015, 01:49:05 pm »

I think e is the right call for today.  Haddock is a backup.

I don't buy the RR case, really.  Hydrad is simply nonpresent.. scummy in the standard Hydrad way, but there's too much reason not to lynch him. 

Teproc is coming off townier, as I said before.  Faust (even disregarding the entire claim thing) is seeming town lately.  Ampharos I still think is town.  Iguana I was pretty sure was town on Day 1, and I haven't really considered him today.  Not a lot has swayed me one way or the other, though I think his response to me v. Faust was townie. 

Yuma I'm still giving a lot of credit to for his Day 1 claim.  Based on his play just today, he'd be up highish in my lynch pool.  I'm not great at reading him though.

I forgot Egor.. I have trouble reading there as well, but his response towards being lynched makes me think town. 

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2659 on: December 17, 2015, 01:49:34 pm »

vote: RR
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2660 on: December 17, 2015, 01:50:11 pm »

Where I think the vote count is :

Teproc (4) : Ampharos, yuma, 2,71828..., Hydrad
Roadrunner7671 (3) : EgorK, Haddock, iguanaiguana, Teproc
2.71828... (1) : Witherweaver
Hydrad (1) : faust
Witherweaver (1) : Roadrunner7671
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2661 on: December 17, 2015, 01:50:34 pm »

Should say Roadrunner7671 (4) above.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2662 on: December 17, 2015, 01:53:00 pm »

I'll have to go in about 20 minutes. I'll be back in around 2 hours, so,you know, don't lynch me in the interval, thanks.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2663 on: December 17, 2015, 02:07:01 pm »

One can assume RR will be voting for me, so WW and faust are the deciding factors here. faust has yet to show up, WW ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2664 on: December 17, 2015, 02:10:04 pm »

Alright, well, going away for a while. Please be careful with those derphammers.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2665 on: December 17, 2015, 02:11:58 pm »

How did the e lynch just disappear? 

RR just doesn't seem like a great option.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #2666 on: December 17, 2015, 02:12:16 pm »

Vote Count 2.15:

Teproc (4): Ampharos, yuma, 2.7, Hydrad
2.7 (1): WW
Hydrad (1): faust
WW (1): RR
RR (4): EgorK, Haddock, iguanaiguana, Teproc

Not Voting (0):

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day Two ends at 3:00 a.m. on Friday, December 18.

That's in ~12 hours.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2667 on: December 17, 2015, 02:21:47 pm »

I'm going to bed shortly, but will probably get up an hour before deadline or so
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2668 on: December 17, 2015, 02:45:12 pm »

vote: RR
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #2669 on: December 17, 2015, 03:02:22 pm »

Vote Count 2.16:

Teproc (3): Ampharos, 2.7, Hydrad
2.7 (1): WW
Hydrad (1): faust
WW (1): RR
RR (5): EgorK, Haddock, iguanaiguana, Teproc, yuma

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With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day Two ends at 3:00 a.m. on Friday, December 18.

That's in 12 hours.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2670 on: December 17, 2015, 03:03:24 pm »

Not doin it.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2671 on: December 17, 2015, 03:14:02 pm »

Claim time!
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2672 on: December 17, 2015, 03:14:32 pm »

I am Iron Man, a Vanilla Townie. And I will be upset if I get lynched.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2673 on: December 17, 2015, 03:15:18 pm »

Still not doin it.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2674 on: December 17, 2015, 03:15:26 pm »

How did this happen so suddenly? I was off the Dominion Forum for 2 hours and now I'm at L-1. The only thing that makes me happy is that people can't accurately read me.
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