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[iguanaiguana]

OK...

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[Haddock]

Oh yeah, me too.
unvote for now.

[Witherweaver]

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[Witherweaver]

I am Daredevil, the Motion Detector

I can target a person each night and learn if they either took an action or were a target of an action (other than mine).   I don't learn which one it was, or their target/source.

Last night I targetted Hydrad and got no result.  I breadcrumbed this as well.  (By that I mean, this is why I said I don't want to lynch Hydrad today.  He's not cleared, but he didn't perform the NK.)

[Witherweaver]

That's why I said this:

Vote: Everyone

I ain't afraid of you!

Since Daredevil is the man without fear.

[Witherweaver]

And this on Hydrad:

I'd prefer not to lynch Hydrad today.

[Witherweaver]

Why did you target me, Faust?

[yuma]

I believe WW I think and probably Faust. I am not basing this on anything other than how I am reading the situation of how they acted and responded but I feel like both are town and something screwy is going on elsewhere. Again no proof, but how I feel.

So I want to lynch elsewhere... I think we can potentially use the two claimeres night actions to an extent during the night to confirm their roles as wel. (need to think more about that)

[2.71828.....]

I believe Witherweaver. 

When I started my reread yesterday (interrupted by fiance calling), I had that post highlighted as his breadcrumb.  It is an obvious crumb when you look at it.  I was trying to figure out what marvel character it goes to, but now I don't have to worry about that.  I think that is town points for Witherweaver

Then there is this post: 

I just thought of a point against shooting, or at least publicly announcing.  If scum has any kind of redirection, bus driving, whatever, they can essentially control Yuma's kill.

Well, we now know that it is very likely that scum has some sort of redirection.  Witherweaver targets Hydrad, but faust says he targeted silverspawn.  That says redirection to me.  Why would scum be super in favor of yuma shooting, then bring up a role that they possess that would give yuma a reason to not shoot?  It makes no sense.

Then we have his opening post breadcrumbing his result on Hydrad, which is townie as well.

So basically I think scum targeted WW with redirection onto silverspawn.  Which is believable given WW's result (silverspawn was a VT)

[2.71828.....]

which means Hydrad is no longer mostly cleared  (assuming I am correct)

[2.71828.....]

but then that doesn't make sense because silverspawn was the target of an action.  Theory debunked

[2.71828.....]

So this is what has happened.

WW (weakened tracker + voyeur combo) - Hydrad did not use an action and was not targeted by anyone (other than WW of course)

faust (tracker) - WW targeted silverspawn

silverspawn - dead VT

yuma - lame sauce for not using his power.

1) both faust and WW are telling the truth implies that faust was redirected.  The issue with WW being redirected is that silverspawn had actions (you know, scum killed him) taken against him.  That doesn't rule out a ninja kill though.  So maybe WW was redirected.

2) someone is lying.  I have not decided which one it is yet.

[iguanaiguana]

Unfortunately, either of them could easily be lying, right?

[iguanaiguana]

So I guess the problem is with Witherweaver, if he's lying, why choose that particular lie? Also, the breadcrumb, and some things e said...

And the problem is with Faust, what's the motivation?

[Witherweaver]

I have trouble seeing Faust lying here.

I guess if anyone targeted Hydrad, or if Hydrad took an action, that would be interesting to know, though it would mean a soft claim

[faust]

Faust, had you hinted you target in the end of D1?

No... I did not decide on a target until well into N1.

[Roadrunner7671]

Doesn't this make Hydrad look scummy? Most of the roles are PRs, and Hydrad probably would have had to use his role. So if he didn't perform a night action, isn't it likely that he sat back and let his fellow mafia partner perform the night kill?
PPE
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[faust]

I am Daredevil, the Motion Detector

I can target a person each night and learn if they either took an action or were a target of an action (other than mine).   I don't learn which one it was, or their target/source.

Last night I targetted Hydrad and got no result.  I breadcrumbed this as well.  (By that I mean, this is why I said I don't want to lynch Hydrad today.  He's not cleared, but he didn't perform the NK.)

Well... this makes an uncharacteristic lot of sense for a fakeclaim... the flavor fits, so does the breadcrumbing. A role like that is also supported by my role.

What is left is that WW could be a scum Motion Detector, does that make sense? I'm not sure how flavor works here, could Daredevil be scum?

Anyway unvote for now.

[faust]

Doesn't this make Hydrad look scummy? Most of the roles are PRs, and Hydrad probably would have had to use his role. So if he didn't perform a night action, isn't it likely that he sat back and let his fellow mafia partner perform the night kill?
PPE
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Where are you getting that from?

[Roadrunner7671]

Doesn't this make Hydrad look scummy? Most of the roles are PRs, and Hydrad probably would have had to use his role. So if he didn't perform a night action, isn't it likely that he sat back and let his fellow mafia partner perform the night kill?
PPE
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Where are you getting that from?

Because we're superheroes, and a vanilla townie is already dead. I would say a large percent of us have PRs.

[faust]

Why did you target me, Faust?

Well, I suspected e and RR and Haddock were also scummy for how they jumped on the wagon. I figured scum wouldn't let them perform the night kill, so I looked to a nullish person. yuma didn't make a lot of sense with his claimed role. You were in a general null-read area and I figured a scum team might pick you for the kill.

[2.71828.....]

This is a normal game not RMM.  Which means more VTs than not.

[faust]

Then there is this post: 

I just thought of a point against shooting, or at least publicly announcing.  If scum has any kind of redirection, bus driving, whatever, they can essentially control Yuma's kill.

Well, we now know that it is very likely that scum has some sort of redirection.  Witherweaver targets Hydrad, but faust says he targeted silverspawn.  That says redirection to me.  Why would scum be super in favor of yuma shooting, then bring up a role that they possess that would give yuma a reason to not shoot?  It makes no sense.

This argument is faulty. The reason to believe that scum has redirecting powers depends on the fact that WW seems like town. If you assume WW is scum, this situation can easily be explained without the need of redirecting roles.

[2.71828.....]

Then there is this post: 

I just thought of a point against shooting, or at least publicly announcing.  If scum has any kind of redirection, bus driving, whatever, they can essentially control Yuma's kill.

Well, we now know that it is very likely that scum has some sort of redirection.  Witherweaver targets Hydrad, but faust says he targeted silverspawn.  That says redirection to me.  Why would scum be super in favor of yuma shooting, then bring up a role that they possess that would give yuma a reason to not shoot?  It makes no sense.

This argument is faulty. The reason to believe that scum has redirecting powers depends on the fact that WW seems like town. If you assume WW is scum, this situation can easily be explained without the need of redirecting roles.

Or if we assume you are scum.  I was making those arguments under the assumption you both are town

[faust]

Then there is this post: 

I just thought of a point against shooting, or at least publicly announcing.  If scum has any kind of redirection, bus driving, whatever, they can essentially control Yuma's kill.

Well, we now know that it is very likely that scum has some sort of redirection.  Witherweaver targets Hydrad, but faust says he targeted silverspawn.  That says redirection to me.  Why would scum be super in favor of yuma shooting, then bring up a role that they possess that would give yuma a reason to not shoot?  It makes no sense.

This argument is faulty. The reason to believe that scum has redirecting powers depends on the fact that WW seems like town. If you assume WW is scum, this situation can easily be explained without the need of redirecting roles.

Or if we assume you are scum.  I was making those arguments under the assumption you both are town

But if you make an argument under the assumption that WW is town and conclude that WW is town, that does not really help a lot...