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[mail-mi]

vote: chairs  L-1!

You just defended him, then voted for him. Why?

Also, a chairs lynch is good with me. intent to hammer

[silverspawn]

can't we lynch Calamitas isntead?

Do not hammer before chairs can claim.

[mail-mi]

can't we lynch Calamitas isntead?

Do not hammer before chairs can claim.

If people want to I'm game.

Of course not.

[gkrieg13]

vote: chairs  L-1!

You just defended him, then voted for him. Why?

Also, a chairs lynch is good with me. intent to hammer

Well because people shouldn't think that he is scummy because he is lurky.  People should think that he is scummy for being scummy.

[gkrieg13]

can't we lynch Calamitas isntead?

Do not hammer before chairs can claim.

What do you think of my counter case for Calamitas?

[silverspawn]

can't we lynch Calamitas isntead?

Do not hammer before chairs can claim.

What do you think of my counter case for Calamitas?

mostly that it is discriminating towards you if Calamitas flips scum.

[Calamitas]

can't we lynch Calamitas isntead?

Do not hammer before chairs can claim.

What do you think of my counter case for Calamitas?

mostly that it is discriminating towards you if Calamitas flips scum.

I thought you consider gkrieg to be an IC?

Seriously, though

gkrieg is an IC. No ifs or buts about it. Scum does not have two NKs. Voting for him is insane.

There is only one possible scenario where gkrieg is not town, which is him being a SK, and that doesn't make any sense because a SK has zero motivation to stop my lynch here - regardless of my alignment.

[silverspawn]

oh that was him?  ;_;

yes. well. he is. in that case I have accept that the IC doesn't want to lynch you. But I still want to.

[iguanaiguana]

Sorry, forum downtime hit when I came on to catch up.

There's a lot here, but if I understand properly the basic argument that I haven't addressed is that I was signalling (when I put teamlyle at L-1) for the hidden vote. Is that an accurate description of the case on me?

...

That is the most ridiculous bullshit I've ever heard. I said I was interested in playing out the L-1 vote because of the following reasons:
1) Teamlyle's post was basically "if I did it" levels of scummy to me.
2) I wanted to see if anybody on-wagon quickly dropped - since I thought teamlyle was scum, this could potentially have indicated a partner wanting to not bus D1.

I was actually pretty goddamn upset about finding out the vote counts were not reliable information as hidden votes are kind of Bastard material in my personal opinion (since it's basically mod lying), but such is life. It's not a death miller (if there's a death miller in this setup I swear I'm done with Mafia forever), so it's a bit arguable re: Bastard v Normal.


I haven't done an updated-for-D2 reads list, but I'm going to go ahead and quickly provide the reads list I made on D1:

Reads - D1, v1: (TT - T - N - S - SS)

1. silverspawn - T
2. SpaceAnemone - N
3. gkrieg - N
4. Roadrunner - S
5. Seprix - S
6. chairs - FREE SPACE
7. iguana - SS
8. mail-mi - T
9. EFHW - S
10. diedre91 - N
11. teamlyle - SS
12. Calamitas - S

Rereading chairs - I know people have pointed this out, but I do agree this is a scummy post.

Swearing from him is off - Also goes against the grain of his happy-go-lucky attitude in other posts and makes both attitudes seem forced. Also "If I did it levels of scummy" I believe is directly stolen from one of my early comments D1. Also, very much reads like someone who is scum but feels he is being voted for the wrong reasons. "Hey, I didn't know Seprix was a traitor!"

His providing his D1 reads list, considering that it gives two known towns as scumreads, is... interesting. Does scum do that for the town points even though it obviously looks bad?

[iguanaiguana]

yeah I could lynch chairs.

[SpaceAnemone]

Swearing from him is off - Also goes against the grain of his happy-go-lucky attitude in other posts and makes both attitudes seem forced.

Huh, I've certainly got the (recent first) impression that Chairs is sweary. There's a particular post of his in the Duel Maffia speccy that sticks in my memory.

[gkrieg13]

I don't think of chairs as very sweary, but he is usually an IC pretty quickly.

[gkrieg13]

request prods on chairs and diedre

[Roadrunner7671]

I could use a prod too. It has been exactly 24 hours since my last post

[Roadrunner7671]

I've been around, I just haven't had anything to say. Chairs is probably going to get lynched and I want that to happen. Encouraging it is sort of useless since most people already have strong opinion.

[gkrieg13]

I could use a prod too. It has been exactly 24 hours since my last post

Well now I can't request one on you...

[chairs]

Hi.

Claim time, eh?

I am a Vanilla Townie.


As far as the swearing goes, well, chairs has never been as stressed out before as he has been this month - and that includes the times when his fiancee's been in the hospital

[SpaceAnemone]

As far as the swearing goes, well, chairs has never been as stressed out before as he has been this month - and that includes the times when his fiancee's been in the hospital

Sorry you're in a bad patch :-( I hope life takes a less stressful turn for you soon!

(I think we're still likely to lynch you, but there's more guilt now!)

[Roadrunner7671]

This isn't my attempt to make you feel less guilty but chairs is the most unlucky person I have ever met

[silverspawn]

how about we don't lynch chairs and lynch calamitas instead?

[gkrieg13]

how about we don't lynch chairs and lynch calamitas instead?

I don't know.  The fact that he has stayed this long at L-1 should say something.  What makes chairs so townie in your book?  Like what is the town motivation behind his game?

[Haddock]

Vote Count 2.8

My flaws are personal. Yours are professional.

chairs (4): diedre, RR, Calamitas, gkrieg (L-1)
SA (1): mail-mi
Calamitas (3): silver, iguana, chairs (L-2)
mail-mi (1): SA

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: 7pm, 3 September.  That's in 28 hours.


diedre has been prodded.

[gkrieg13]

I will only lynch SA, chairs, or Calamitas.  Would vastly prefer chairs now, especially after the way that he claimed.  I mean the top part of the post just doesn't seem very genuine.

[SpaceAnemone]

how about we don't lynch chairs and lynch calamitas instead?

I don't know.  The fact that he has stayed this long at L-1 should say something.  What makes chairs so townie in your book?  Like what is the town motivation behind his game?

Just a query... would it be impolite for me to hammer, given that Mail-mi already posted intent? I'm not sure what the etiquette is there. Iguana seemed persuadable too, I think, though I'm phone-posting so it's complicated to go back and check right now :-P

I'd rather see Chairs lynched than Calamitas, but my gut would rather vote Mail-mi over either of them.

[silverspawn]

no it's not impolite to steal someone else's hammer