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[Witherweaver]

I kinda feel bad for the scum team this game. WW gets shot by his teammate, Jake is quicklynched at the last minute and then Awaclus is caught by night actions.

I do too!

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I kinda feel bad for the scum team this game. WW gets shot by his teammate, Jake is quicklynched at the last minute and then Awaclus is caught by night actions.

I do too!

Me too plus I couldn't even defend myself. I was literally about to break my laptop when Joseph kept calling me the traitor because my goal for the rest of the game was to lynch the traitor. I actually thought the traitor was gkrieg which made me even more frustrated that he lead the lynch on me.
 

[SpaceAnemone]

Is anyone going to post the speccy/mafia QT/stuff like that? :-)

[faust]

Oh, sure:

Mafia: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/a8kdKcrBZXL
Speccy: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/bVNnnpNmYuC
Mod: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/B23NSJnbqQe

[Awaclus]

Well, the quote fail is realistic; it's still more likely to come from scum. Town and scum both have the same chance of a "real" fail, but scum has the additional incentive to fake it. So P(quotefail happens | poster is scum) > P(quotefail happens | poster is town).

I'll probably find a way to intentionally quotefail as town some day.

[iguanaiguana]

Kireg has a nice ring to it

[Robz888]

Good job fellow townies! Y'all made it look easy.

[Joseph2302]

I kinda feel bad for the scum team this game. WW gets shot by his teammate, Jake is quicklynched at the last minute and then Awaclus is caught by night actions.

I do too!

Me too plus I couldn't even defend myself. I was literally about to break my laptop when Joseph kept calling me the traitor because my goal for the rest of the game was to lynch the traitor. I actually thought the traitor was gkrieg which made me even more frustrated that he lead the lynch on me.

I'm expert at doing this. Correct outcome based on completely wrong information.

I was right that we should lynch Jake though, albeit for all the wrong reasons

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I should have known the traitor was awaclus and not a vet.

[SpaceAnemone]

Oh, sure:

Mafia: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/a8kdKcrBZXL
Speccy: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/bVNnnpNmYuC
Mod: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/B23NSJnbqQe

Hmm... your mod QT disagrees with my probabilities over role sets, in that you have fewer allowed configurations than me. Maybe I'll have to re-check mine now. I'm sad nobody else wanted to play numbers with me. Where's Calamitas when you need him? :-P

[gkrieg13]

Although I was also prepared to get more heat for the quickhammer, but I really didn't have any idea how it would turn out. That's also partially why I wanted to try it out, but ultimately I also thought that even if I just managed to mislynch a PR and shoot a townie before getting lynched D2, that would still be pretty okay since I was only the traitor and then the real scum team would be in a 2 vs 5 situation with no real wagon analysis possibilities to help town. Unfortunately, it worked out even worse than that.

Was it intentional quote fail D1?

Yeah.

Knew that! Also I was scumreading you pretty all the game, but then gkrieg seemed to be more scummy.

Sorry for all the tunneling. I felt like we needed to do something because of the short day

[Joseph2302]

I should have known the traitor was awaclus and not a vet.

Awaclus is a vet though?

[gkrieg13]

I kinda feel bad for the scum team this game. WW gets shot by his teammate, Jake is quicklynched at the last minute and then Awaclus is caught by night actions.

I do too!

Me too plus I couldn't even defend myself. I was literally about to break my laptop when Joseph kept calling me the traitor because my goal for the rest of the game was to lynch the traitor. I actually thought the traitor was gkrieg which made me even more frustrated that he lead the lynch on me.

At least one of my "I will only lynch one of these two players"was right.

My goal this game was to end every day voting for scum, and I accomplished it somehow, so I feel good about myself.

[Witherweaver]

I'm pretty sure I get NKd more often than lynched as scum.  Pretty often by scum, too.

[gkrieg13]

I'm pretty sure I get NKd more often than lynched as scum.  Pretty often by scum, too.

I mean I would vig you.

[Witherweaver]

I'm pretty sure I get NKd more often than lynched as scum.  Pretty often by scum, too.

I mean I would vig you.

Just because you voting me never works.

[gkrieg13]

I'm pretty sure I get NKd more often than lynched as scum.  Pretty often by scum, too.

I mean I would vig you.

Just because you voting me never works.

Yup. And you're always scum

[SpaceAnemone]

In terms of MVP (and looking at the musings in the mod QT), I'd pick LL over Jimmmmm by a clear margin, because LL was consistently towny and present through the whole game, whereas Jimmmmm was rather harmfully absent, and then his targeting of me wasn't all that unlikely, given that I'd just had a strong D2. [M92 is good precedent for that: faust got the MVP for strong reads, my Detective use to get us the last scum and a flawless victory did not].

In spite of being merely a "possibly Space" afterthought, I think this could be my best town game yet :-) Maybe I was a little too nitpicky about everyone else's weird arguments, but I was on/off the right lynches at the ends of the days, didn't fall into any bizarre paranoid conspiracy theories, and I was right to stick to my guns on on refusing to hammer LL, especially since most of the evidence against him apparently stemmed from Awaclus's behaviour! I feel like LL and I both came at this prepared to be very townie, given the awful scum game we had over in NM10 :-P We should keep being town together, LL! :-)

[Dylan32]

I don't know if anyone on town deserves an MVP frankly lol.  That was a win that town fell into in spite of themselves. The reasoning for seeing Jake scummy as presented by basically everyone was wrong (but ended correctly).  We avoided lynching LL because we only had votes awake to lynch Jake instead (for flawed reasons, apparently).  I don't think most of the arguments Space called out were inherently bad, they just happened to be wrong.  I might have to give it to the Watcher by default for guessing that Space would be the target if I had a say.

[Dylan32]

Maybe I should have actually read Space's previous post thoroughly before posting lol

[Jimmmmm]

I think it would be thematically appropriate to name probability as the MVP.

[Jimmmmm]

Please don't make me MVP.

[gkrieg13]

It's hard because every MVP candidate has something about them that is a reason why they shouldn't be MVP

[Dylan32]

It's hard because every MVP candidate has something about them that is a reason why they shouldn't be MVP

Sadly true haha. How about we are all co-MVPs?

[Robz888]

While I totally understand the hesitance to award it to anyone, I think there's a case to be made for LaLight to get it.