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[WestCoastDidds]

Yams, Scola....what do you think?

[scolapasta]

Yams, Scola....what do you think?

I continue to think MiX is scum. Possibly MiX and you.

Vote: MiX

[MiX]

Yams, Scola....what do you think?

I continue to think MiX is scum. Possibly MiX and you.

Vote: MiX

Then scum can't kill humans and we win trivially.

[MiX]

Yams, Scola....what do you think?

I continue to think MiX is scum. Possibly MiX and you.

Vote: MiX

Then scum can't kill humans and we win trivially.

Also don't kill me when I'm trying to win the game plzkthx.

You can say we're scum over and over but it doesn't logically make sense that there's no scum humans knowing mail-mi's ability.

[WestCoastDidds]

Scola,

Can you entertain the idea there is a scum human? If there is, who it it?

The long and the short of it is that we can keep killing the hosts, but we’re not moving the needle with that strategy.

[MiX]

Heck, we don't even need to believe mail-mi's town because we have a redirector.

Yeah we can just win if we exile faust. It's not 100%, but it's pretty hard for scum to find what they have to do to win, assuming they have no extra powers that break this.

Honestly, I'm just praying scum has strongman/ninja/godfather as their only scum powers and not bulletproof or vig.

[scolapasta]

Scola,

Can you entertain the idea there is a scum human? If there is, who it it?

The long and the short of it is that we can keep killing the hosts, but we’re not moving the needle with that strategy.

I'll make you a deal, I'll entertain that idea when either a) joth is rezzed or b) we exile MiX then you, and the game doesn't end with a town win.

[scolapasta]

How do we get endgamed exactly?

We don't. I cracked it. We win this game.

But we need to be sure mail-mi is town. Are we?

If we do know he's town, we can exile both faust and LL, and win.

Are you saying we don't because there isn't we don't get endgamed if joth is rezzed? (i.e. my actual question)

Or are you diverting from the answer by suggesting this other plan. Which, if you and Didds are scum, means we lose.

[MiX]

How do we get endgamed exactly?

We don't. I cracked it. We win this game.

But we need to be sure mail-mi is town. Are we?

If we do know he's town, we can exile both faust and LL, and win.

Are you saying we don't because there isn't we don't get endgamed if joth is rezzed? (i.e. my actual question)

Or are you diverting from the answer by suggesting this other plan. Which, if you and Didds are scum, means we lose.

We can't lose if all hosts are scum for a very obvious reason, so we need to kill the scum human. My plan nearly ensures that. And "nearly" is as best as we can do.

Also joth's going to kill me and Didds when he's back so we're town. Get out of your tunnel.

[scolapasta]

How do we get endgamed exactly?

We don't. I cracked it. We win this game.

But we need to be sure mail-mi is town. Are we?

If we do know he's town, we can exile both faust and LL, and win.

Are you saying we don't because there isn't we don't get endgamed if joth is rezzed? (i.e. my actual question)

Or are you diverting from the answer by suggesting this other plan. Which, if you and Didds are scum, means we lose.

We can't lose if all hosts are scum for a very obvious reason, so we need to kill the scum human. My plan nearly ensures that. And "nearly" is as best as we can do.

Also joth's going to kill me and Didds when he's back so we're town. Get out of your tunnel.

You still haven't answered my question - how would joth getting rezzed endgame us?

[scolapasta]

People seem to be doubting my all scum hosts hypotheses - and it could be wrong, I agree. But we haven't had any evidence yet that it is wrong. Let's not forget joth had a dyavig he could give out that could kill a human. He gave it to swowl, but that would have been a way (besides exile) for scu, to engineer a mail mi death.

Again, I'm not saying I'm 100% right about this (not my style). But show me the evidence that it is wrong? Or where the risk is in giving it at least another day and not killing a human tonight?

[MiX]

People seem to be doubting my all scum hosts hypotheses - and it could be wrong, I agree. But we haven't had any evidence yet that it is wrong. Let's not forget joth had a dyavig he could give out that could kill a human. He gave it to swowl, but that would have been a way (besides exile) for scu, to engineer a mail mi death.

Again, I'm not saying I'm 100% right about this (not my style). But show me the evidence that it is wrong? Or where the risk is in giving it at least another day and not killing a human tonight?

The risk is that if you die, joth can massacre you as well, which completely destroys my plan.

If all scum are hosts, town has to allow scum to shoot humans. We can just not allow that and then they can't kill the 3 alive town humans. How can scum win in such a game?

[scolapasta]

People seem to be doubting my all scum hosts hypotheses - and it could be wrong, I agree. But we haven't had any evidence yet that it is wrong. Let's not forget joth had a dyavig he could give out that could kill a human. He gave it to swowl, but that would have been a way (besides exile) for scu, to engineer a mail mi death.

Again, I'm not saying I'm 100% right about this (not my style). But show me the evidence that it is wrong? Or where the risk is in giving it at least another day and not killing a human tonight?

Similarly, for all we know MiX's 1 shot dayvig - maybe it can kill humans? He doesn't just use it outright, because that outs him as scum. He even tried to suggest using it on mail-mi to "trest if he's human". WHAT?

1. That's a huge risk to take if it would somehow kill him?
2. What reason is there to doubt mail-mi's human claim? Just like people could have assumed Dolores was in th game, there's almost no chance the game doesn't include Robert Ford.

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[scolapasta]

People seem to be doubting my all scum hosts hypotheses - and it could be wrong, I agree. But we haven't had any evidence yet that it is wrong. Let's not forget joth had a dyavig he could give out that could kill a human. He gave it to swowl, but that would have been a way (besides exile) for scu, to engineer a mail mi death.

Again, I'm not saying I'm 100% right about this (not my style). But show me the evidence that it is wrong? Or where the risk is in giving it at least another day and not killing a human tonight?

The risk is that if you die, joth can massacre you as well, which completely destroys my plan.

If all scum are hosts, town has to allow scum to shoot humans. We can just not allow that and then they can't kill the 3 alive town humans. How can scum win in such a game?

I still think there could be multiple triggers for there to be that allow scum to kill humans. For all I know the same host being exiled / killed twice is one of those. (and why joth hammered himself*)

* I don't remember if anyone had a good explanation for why that would happen.

[MiX]

People seem to be doubting my all scum hosts hypotheses - and it could be wrong, I agree. But we haven't had any evidence yet that it is wrong. Let's not forget joth had a dyavig he could give out that could kill a human. He gave it to swowl, but that would have been a way (besides exile) for scu, to engineer a mail mi death.

Again, I'm not saying I'm 100% right about this (not my style). But show me the evidence that it is wrong? Or where the risk is in giving it at least another day and not killing a human tonight?

The risk is that if you die, joth can massacre you as well, which completely destroys my plan.

If all scum are hosts, town has to allow scum to shoot humans. We can just not allow that and then they can't kill the 3 alive town humans. How can scum win in such a game?

I still think there could be multiple triggers for there to be that allow scum to kill humans. For all I know the same host being exiled / killed twice is one of those. (and why joth hammered himself*)

* I don't remember if anyone had a good explanation for why that would happen.

Given my ability, it would be some universal thing, and mail-mi hasn't flipped yet.

[WestCoastDidds]

Scola seems to believe that he is the one and only town host of the five hosts.

I just don’t see a game being fair with a single person determining the entire game.

[mail-mi]

People seem to be doubting my all scum hosts hypotheses - and it could be wrong, I agree. But we haven't had any evidence yet that it is wrong. Let's not forget joth had a dyavig he could give out that could kill a human. He gave it to swowl, but that would have been a way (besides exile) for scu, to engineer a mail mi death.

Again, I'm not saying I'm 100% right about this (not my style). But show me the evidence that it is wrong? Or where the risk is in giving it at least another day and not killing a human tonight?

Similarly, for all we know MiX's 1 shot dayvig - maybe it can kill humans? He doesn't just use it outright, because that outs him as scum. He even tried to suggest using it on mail-mi to "trest if he's human". WHAT?

1. That's a huge risk to take if it would somehow kill him?
2. What reason is there to doubt mail-mi's human claim? Just like people could have assumed Dolores was in th game, there's almost no chance the game doesn't include Robert Ford.

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LaLight confirmed that MiX's vig doesn't work on humans until I die.

[faust]

Scola seems to believe that he is the one and only town host of the five hosts.

I just don’t see a game being fair with a single person determining the entire game.

Well, he and Awaclus, right? I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense though.

[Archetype]

Vote Count 6.1

LaLight (1): faust
faust (1): LaLight
MiX (1): scolapasta

Not Voting (3): mail-mi, WestCoastDidds, MiX

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to Exile. Day 6 will end August 19th at 3:30 pm Forum Time

[MiX]

Ok let's exile faust/LL.

Vote: faust

[faust]

Ok let's exile faust/LL.

Vote: faust

I agree! But why me though? It should be LaLight.

[MiX]

Ok let's exile faust/LL.

Vote: faust

I agree! But why me though? It should be LaLight.

Because you can roleblock Didds, and that messes up my plan.

[WestCoastDidds]

Do you have a particular redirection in mind? Or just try to keep a host safe? Or try to keep Joth from coming back (I am not sure I can do that, but I’ll ask)?

[MiX]

Do you have a particular redirection in mind? Or just try to keep a host safe? Or try to keep Joth from coming back (I am not sure I can do that, but I’ll ask)?

Redirect a human to...joth? Someone dead. I think that works.

[faust]

Ok let's exile faust/LL.

Vote: faust

I agree! But why me though? It should be LaLight.

Because you can roleblock Didds, and that messes up my plan.

Does it help if I promise that I won't? 

I mean I suppose following your plan isn't the worst thing ever, I'm just a bit worried that scum has been holding something back that would screw us.