Stuff about Specialty Shop.
Stuff about Specialty Shop.
Hehehe, you guys are really going all in into this debate.
Note that I think this is really cool that this discussion is happening. Discussing the shortcomings of a design is pretty noble and truly shows a desire to make a suggested card as good as it can be. I mean, you both do not get anything in return... Anyway, this is appreciated and thank you guys for trimming that time off your day just for this! I just hope it doesn’t look like I’m holding this thread hostage with this mega discussion though.
Now onto the card at hand:
I was pretty confident in my first answer to you regarding the Debt part. However, you made me question if I remembered how this gameplay element really played out. I had this all figured out in my mind. But I actually re-read Empires’ rule book. And yeah, turns out, you pay off your
AFTER buying the card. In my noggin’, the way I remembered Debt was that you only took as much
as the difference between what you pay and the bought card’s
cost. And surely enough, that’s not how it works. And so, my example with Overload is nullified. You are right, GendoIkari, you
cannot pay off your
with
. However, you may pay the
part of a card on the Shop mat and pay off the
it comes with with the rest of your Treasures in play, as you would usually do (plus the
you accumulated with your Action cards). So you could pay
8 to gain a Fortune, paying off the
with like, 2 Golds and a Silver in play as usual.
This raises another concern with Overlord. Since only the
part of a card is locked behind its
equivalent, Overlord, which costs
, could be bought from the Shop mat even if you have no set aside Specialty Shops. That’s because you have
0, which is equivalent to
. So you can buy it willy nelly. This is not intended. Similarly, I made a custom Kingdom Action card costing
in another thread. This card, if on the Shop mat, would suffer the same consequence.
Thus, a lower cost limit must be imposed for it to work as intended. And so I will update my card; probably a little later since I think Specialty Shop has had enough attention for the time being. There are reasons why I do not want to put an upper bond for the cost of what can be put on the Shop mat, even if doing so would remove all
and
costing candidates from being put on that mat.
Side note: I’m going back onto what I said about Overpay. Wasn’t really thinking straight there too. You cannot overpay with
. So you can only pay the base price of an overpay card on the Shop mat. All this stuff is trivial for the competition though. A simple FAQ would clarify these questions.
Thanks y’all!