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[Awaclus]

Chairs was obviously town.

[iguanaiguana]

Gah. That was an unfortunate lynch.

vote:RR is good here I think.

this is L-1.  Let's hold off on the hammer, OK?  We need some decent discussion here.

I agree RR is a good start for tomorrow if chairs is town. But let's see what happens.

But yeah. This is bad

Why is this bad? I honestly don't get it, e, it's like you're determined to find me scummy. WW is this also what swung you?

Putting your counter wagon at L-1, then telling people not to hammer seems like a thinly disguised ploy for towncred.

Vote: Haddock I'm not gunna let your scumbuddy hammer this one.

[Awaclus]

Gah. That was an unfortunate lynch.

vote:RR is good here I think.

this is L-1.  Let's hold off on the hammer, OK?  We need some decent discussion here.

I agree RR is a good start for tomorrow if chairs is town. But let's see what happens.

But yeah. This is bad

Why is this bad? I honestly don't get it, e, it's like you're determined to find me scummy. WW is this also what swung you?

Putting your counter wagon at L-1, then telling people not to hammer seems like a thinly disguised ploy for towncred.

Vote: Haddock I'm not gunna let your scumbuddy hammer this one.

Translation: "I found an excuse to not vote for my scum partner today!"

[iguanaiguana]

nah but I'm pretty nervous about blitz.

[Haddock]

It's more that it indicated a mindset that Chairs was town.  The hammer wouldn't have been bad if Chairs was scum.

Dude.  There's a CONDITIONAL in the quote.  It says "IF chairs is town".  Being prepared for the worst case scenario is not scummy.

Gah. That was an unfortunate lynch.

vote:RR is good here I think.

this is L-1.  Let's hold off on the hammer, OK?  We need some decent discussion here.

I agree RR is a good start for tomorrow if chairs is town. But let's see what happens.

But yeah. This is bad

Why is this bad? I honestly don't get it, e, it's like you're determined to find me scummy. WW is this also what swung you?

Putting your counter wagon at L-1, then telling people not to hammer seems like a thinly disguised ploy for towncred.

Vote: Haddock I'm not gunna let your scumbuddy hammer this one.

Hah.  There was no counter-wagon til that vote.  One vote does not a wagon make.

If it looks like a thinly disguised ploy for towncred then ask yourself whether scum!me would do something that transparent.  I would argue not.  (WIFOM WIFOM)

Telling people to be careful with their hammering is not scummy.

[gkrieg13]

Everyone is saying that chairs was obviously town, but I don't really believe that. If he was town, why were there still so many people on that wagon? 

Anyway, I think it is useful to see who was on that wagon and to look at the RR wagon. Because the RR wagon came up second, I don't think it was necessarily scum driven. So my guess would be that scum is on the chairs wagon.

[gkrieg13]

Day2 Starts Now

ADK was killed during the night. He was a Vanilla Townie.


Vote Count 2.0

Not Voting: (7) gkrieg, RR, WW, Awaclus, iguana, 2.7, Haddock

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day2 will last for 7 days.

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So I would say either e, WW, or RR is scum. I'll look at it more when I get to a computer

[gkrieg13]

Oops. Quote fail. That should be the final vote count

[Awaclus]

Everyone is saying that chairs was obviously town, but I don't really believe that. If he was town, why were there still so many people on that wagon?

Because those people were making a stupid mistake.

[gkrieg13]

Everyone is saying that chairs was obviously town, but I don't really believe that. If he was town, why were there still so many people on that wagon?

Because those people were making a stupid mistake.

I guess it is that WW is saying that he was town

[Witherweaver]

Everyone is saying that chairs was obviously town, but I don't really believe that. If he was town, why were there still so many people on that wagon?

Because those people were making a stupid mistake.

I guess it is that WW is saying that he was town

Hmm?

[gkrieg13]

It's more that it indicated a mindset that Chairs was town.  The hammer wouldn't have been bad if Chairs was scum.

This was the quote I misread

[iguanaiguana]

WW, why don't you like a Roadrunner vote?

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So I would say either e, WW, or RR is scum. I'll look at it more when I get to a computer

So....one scum on wagon one scum off wagon is what you are saying. Makes sense. I do think RR is the first place to look on wagon. You are second though.

[Witherweaver]

WW, why don't you like a Roadrunner vote?

During the post-hammer discussions, I thought Haddock's was the scummiest.

[iguanaiguana]

Town!ADK re-read:

First real vote is for e.
Switches to me when I start joking around.
Gets convinced by the Haddock wagon.
Briefly switches back to me, then Chairs saying he can see the scumming.
Decides he has intent to hammer Roadrunner after the case on him is made, still voting chairs though.
Says he'll wait until Gkrieg and WW chime in before hammering Roadrunner.
Gkrieg hammers chairs without giving ADK a chance to say anything.
ADK's last words: "That was... pretty scummy" (referring to Gkrieg)

So ADK scumread me, Haddock and Roadrunner mainly. Then put a scumread on Gkrieg before getting killed at night.

[iguanaiguana]

Town!Chairs re-read

Calls my defense a (townie) appeal to emotion. (He writes a lot of posts in character.)
Tempted to do a really early hammer on Haddock when Haddock's at L-1
Townreads Haddock for his post-shower reads post.
Votes Roadrunner
Votes Haddock because he's the alternative wagon.
Switches back to Roadrunner, again because Roadrunner is the alternative wagon.
"I'm town."

[iguanaiguana]

Awaclus is my strongest living townread, so I'm re-reading him next.

Suspects me and Roadrunner from the start.
Just keeps suspecting me and Roadrunner
Considers that it could be Gkrieg/Roadrunner
Continues to suspect me and Roadrunner.

[iguanaiguana]

Awaclus, if I was scum, I would have killed you.

[Haddock]

Town!ADK re-read:

First real vote is for e.
Switches to me when I start joking around.
Gets convinced by the Haddock wagon.
Briefly switches back to me, then Chairs saying he can see the scumming.
Decides he has intent to hammer Roadrunner after the case on him is made, still voting chairs though.
Says he'll wait until Gkrieg and WW chime in before hammering Roadrunner.
Gkrieg hammers chairs without giving ADK a chance to say anything.
ADK's last words: "That was... pretty scummy" (referring to Gkrieg)

So ADK scumread me, Haddock and Roadrunner mainly. Then put a scumread on Gkrieg before getting killed at night.

So this, to me, makes gkrieg more townish?  I think as scum you'd avoid killing a respected player who has literally just scumread you.  As scum you'd feel like killing ADK there would put a spotlight on you.

[Haddock]

Oh, and PPE, from what I just said, ii, I think you wouldn't have killed Awa there for exactly the reason above.

[iguanaiguana]

Oh, and PPE, from what I just said, ii, I think you wouldn't have killed Awa there for exactly the reason above.

Except look at my one scum game. All I do is kill the people who scumread me, plain a simple. It loses me the game, but I can't help it. I hate people calling me scum, and when I have the power to kill them, I do.

[iguanaiguana]

Except don't actually look at my one scum game because it's 150 pages long.

[Awaclus]

Awaclus, if I was scum, I would have killed you.

• Doubt

[Awaclus]

Fuck, that's not how that was supposed to be parsed. Let's try again.

[x] Doubt