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[Witherweaver]

I have trouble finding Ash's comments sincere, and I'm not sure why he'd do it as town.  Though, town!Ash going after me when I'm town is kind of a thing.

I've been operating under the assumption that Ash is the other Mason, and operating under the assumption that Gkrieg is town.  We may want to consider the possibility that they're scum.  I suppose each person that may have a PR can examine the setup in their own light to see how likely it is, though we haven't gotten a lot of information.  I would have liked to have done the massclaiming thing on day 1.  I'd still support it.

PPE: like 10

[yuma]

It is the part that comes through loud and clear.  Whether you want it to or not, your case is tainted with what seems to me like a serious distaste for Awaclus the player.

so is it my job to remove the taint or is it your job to see through it? Probably both?

But I am doing my part to remove the taint by explaining the full reasoning each time you fail to see through it. It is time for you to do your part...

[Twistedarcher]

I'd be pro-massclaim

[ashersky]

I just modded scum!awaclus through the most painful game of my life.  All kinds of disappointment.  But I got a very good look into scum!Awaclus.

He's different here.

Not the annoying stuff -- that's omnipresent.  But other stuff.

[Witherweaver]

Oh here you go Yuma

Vote: Witherweaver

[yuma]

Let's mass claim!

[ashersky]

It is the part that comes through loud and clear.  Whether you want it to or not, your case is tainted with what seems to me like a serious distaste for Awaclus the player.

so is it my job to remove the taint or is it your job to see through it? Probably both?

But I am doing my part to remove the taint by explaining the full reasoning each time you fail to see through it. It is time for you to do your part...

You have a point.  But my point of view comes from a completely different place.  I know very recent scum!Awaclus.

[yuma]

i am a VT

vote: ww

no vote: awaclus

I have made two committments in my life and now I have to break one of them?

vote: wacitherus

[Twistedarcher]

I just modded scum!awaclus through the most painful game of my life.  All kinds of disappointment.  But I got a very good look into scum!Awaclus.

He's different here.

Not the annoying stuff -- that's omnipresent.  But other stuff.

OK I've seen this like 3 times this thread now. That's he's different from Shakespeare. Mind going into details?

[ashersky]

I have trouble finding Ash's comments sincere, and I'm not sure why he'd do it as town.  Though, town!Ash going after me when I'm town is kind of a thing.

I've been operating under the assumption that Ash is the other Mason, and operating under the assumption that Gkrieg is town.  We may want to consider the possibility that they're scum.  I suppose each person that may have a PR can examine the setup in their own light to see how likely it is, though we haven't gotten a lot of information.  I would have liked to have done the massclaiming thing on day 1.  I'd still support it.

PPE: like 10

OMGUS much?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Mass claiming is terrible.

Is anyone in favor of it for a reason other than boredom?

[Witherweaver]

Pretty sure that counts as the hammer.

I'm VT.  Awaclus may be town here.  Everything I said in way of reads was honest, for whatever it's worth when you reread.

[Witherweaver]

I have trouble finding Ash's comments sincere, and I'm not sure why he'd do it as town.  Though, town!Ash going after me when I'm town is kind of a thing.

I've been operating under the assumption that Ash is the other Mason, and operating under the assumption that Gkrieg is town.  We may want to consider the possibility that they're scum.  I suppose each person that may have a PR can examine the setup in their own light to see how likely it is, though we haven't gotten a lot of information.  I would have liked to have done the massclaiming thing on day 1.  I'd still support it.

PPE: like 10

OMGUS much?

Your position doesn't make sense so it's hard to consider it sincere.

[yuma]

Mass claiming is terrible.

Is anyone in favor of it for a reason other than boredom?

Everything I said before still applies... but boredom is a perfectly legitimate reason... as is the frustration this game has developed of late... anything to break up that.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Did Yuma just hammer?

Also, I am not claiming unless, after looking at other claims, I believe my claim would catch scum in a lie, or I'm about to be lynched.

Mass claiming is terrible.

[Witherweaver]

I should be hammered.

[ashersky]

I just modded scum!awaclus through the most painful game of my life.  All kinds of disappointment.  But I got a very good look into scum!Awaclus.

He's different here.

Not the annoying stuff -- that's omnipresent.  But other stuff.

OK I've seen this like 3 times this thread now. That's he's different from Shakespeare. Mind going into details?

I don't mind, but I don't have time right this minute.  Probably Monday.

Generally, I can say Awaclus was (to me) less abrasive and generally less noticeable early in the game.  To me, he felt very timid at first.  When it got later in the game, he took opportunities to paint some pictures of other players that helped his cause (especially QS).  His fake claim was terrible, too.

I'd be up for making Awaclus claim, actually.

[Twistedarcher]

Mass claiming is terrible.

Is anyone in favor of it for a reason other than boredom?

I'd like the other mason to claim. If we're playing with 2x goon, it's likely the mason claim is fake. We don't have to massclaim but I would definitely like the other mason to claim today.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

We really need to get this frustration and apathy under control, I'm not sure what caused it, but it seems like a real problem lately.

Playing poorly won't fix it.

[ashersky]

Yuma was hammer -- WW at 3, then UOD, WW, Yuma.

[Twistedarcher]

Yeah WW was lynched. Uos was 4, WW was 5, Yuma was 6.

[Witherweaver]

We really need to get this frustration and apathy under control, I'm not sure what caused it, but it seems like a real problem lately.

Playing poorly won't fix it.

I think it's pretty obvious what caused it.

[Witherweaver]

and oh fuck it why do I even bother talking this is just going to get a pointless response to lead to more pointlessness.

[Twistedarcher]

Now was Yuma hammer a mistake, or a scum hammer masked as a mistake?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Mass claiming is terrible.

Is anyone in favor of it for a reason other than boredom?

I'd like the other mason to claim. If we're playing with 2x goon, it's likely the mason claim is fake. We don't have to massclaim but I would definitely like the other mason to claim today.

As I laid out before, other mason claiming is bad until we get much later into the game, or to prevent their own lynch.

Also, claiming in twilight is ridiculous.